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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Apparently the new PHEV won't be much more efficient than the old.......just going off the fact that it's upgraded 20kwh battery is suspected to only go 35 miles while the Rav4 Prime I have on order has a smaller(16+ Kwh battery) yet is rated for almost 40 miles.
Kinda wish the Outlander had been more efficient as to be a better contender to the Prime but it sounds like older technology in it's drivetrain, which is why we ordered the Prime, which after waiting almost a year and a half and we still haven't got it yet :( (although to be fair when we ordered it they said to not expect it for 2 years)
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Toyota is right at the cusp of starting to lose its full tax credit. Last I heard they were at 198000 EVs at the end of the quarter but I don't know if that's an official number. I can't remember the phase out timing but it will be starting in a quarter or two. Hope you get your car soon enough, you will love it.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

goldbrick wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:42 pm Toyota is right at the cusp of starting to lose its full tax credit. Last I heard they were at 198000 EVs at the end of the quarter but I don't know if that's an official number. I can't remember the phase out timing but it will be starting in a quarter or two. Hope you get your car soon enough, you will love it.
Me too although I'm kind of thinking we might not get the full credit :( which kind of sucks as we've finally got enough tax liability to take full advantage of the credit! Back when we got our '13 Leaf we had to leave about $2k on the table due to insufficient liability.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

New Outlander PHEV is continuing with Chademo. With the Leaf hanging in there for at least 18 more month, we should have at least 2 more years of Chademo station growth.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Review: 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV showcases the brand’s best
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

And it's still a gas hog, albeit one with more AER plus a third row of seats only suitable for small children. Unless you really need the latter, why would anyone opt for this over the RAV4 Prime?
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Availability could be an advantage as it's a very long wait to get a Rav4 prime right now.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

DougWantsALeaf wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:08 pm Availability could be an advantage as it's a very long wait to get a Rav4 prime right now.
I suppose, if you really, really need to get it soon and you don't mind paying the 12 mpg (EPA combined. 9 mpg EPA HWY) penalty for gas for as long as you have it.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

GRA wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:54 pm And it's still a gas hog, albeit one with more AER plus a third row of seats only suitable for small children. Unless you really need the latter, why would anyone opt for this over the RAV4 Prime?
Yes, I was really disappointed it had basically the same thirsty ICE and it's not just that, even the EV has to be a fair amount less efficient, that or it has to have a fair amount worse aero design, which is maybe more the case?..... :( I mean it has a larger battery(20Kwh vs the Primes ~17Kw) yet it's range is less :?
To me one of the nicest things about the Prime is you can go 600 miles + on a full tank of gas and battery, the Outlanders full range is 420 miles, a BIG difference(yes of course the Prime has a slightly larger tank).
On the plus side, I'm impressed it has a Heat Pump heater, something I think is very important in a PHEV(even more important than a full EV IMO as your range is so much less) so I hope that's a sign of things to come in all EV variant cars.
The third row really sounds like a joke and I quote the article:
"Even children will have trouble fitting in that third row. If you’re big enough to have your feet on the floor, you’re too big for the third row."
While it does have CHAdeMO QC :lol: it sounds like they cheaped out on L2, 15a for a vehicle with a 20Kwh battery :(
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Because some people insist on making the wrong decision."
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Don't get me wrong, people could purchase a worse vehicle, most any of the Jeep variants come to mind but myself, I'll still be waiting for my Prime, 2+ years. I did just hear from my dealer, Apparently, my SE is on a ship bound for CA, just have to wait the 1-3 months it's apparently taking to offload them and then the rail journey to MN......I'm guessing we'll get it in the dead of winter(something I didn't really want) and it sounds like I'll be getting one of the last of the 22's :( and the price went up from '20 when I put my deposit down not to mention a sneaky $1k addition as Toyota is no longer offering just the cold weather package as when I ordered it, they now FORCE you to get the damn sunroof if you want a heated steering wheel! oh and ya, $7500 more than I was planning as it will no longer qualify for the tax rebate I was planning on! So while it will be nice to finally retire the '07 Prius, it's going to cost close to $44k or almost $10k more than I was planning for, 2 years ago :cry:
Also note the dealer, while not charging over sticker is adding about $1k in stuff I didn't order, floor mats(which I may have purchased myself for much less) sill guards and related overpriced crap, guess it could be worse.......
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Is the awd any good in the Rav4? TFL tested the AWD in the Pruis prime and it failed horribly.

The Outlander engineering is quite different than the other Phevs. Not saying it is better though.

Actually, 38 miles would meet 99% of my wife's driving needs.
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