Triggerhappy007
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

Flyct wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:01 pm.

Looking at the 2023 SV+ specs the only thing of significance I could find is that that my 2020 SL Plus has leather vs the Cloth in the SV Plus. My 2016 SV had cloth and I actually preferred it to leather. It’s not as hot to sit on in the Florida heat.
It will also lose the Bose subwoofer and HD radio.
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Flyct
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

Triggerhappy007 wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:12 am
Flyct wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:01 pm.

Looking at the 2023 SV+ specs the only thing of significance I could find is that that my 2020 SL Plus has leather vs the Cloth in the SV Plus. My 2016 SV had cloth and I actually preferred it to leather. It’s not as hot to sit on in the Florida heat.
It will also lose the Bose subwoofer and HD radio.
Thanks for that info. I forgot that difference.

Not having the Bose subwoofer would gain me some much needed floor space in the back. HD radio doesn’t do me any good since I’m deaf in one ear and 60% in other. The lack of HD radio wouldn’t matter since wear bicross hearing aids and normally listen to iPhone pandora via Bluetooth on the car speakers.

My 2017 SV didn’t have Bose and I couldn’t tell much difference.

Edit: The Bose system in most EVs is low power and nowhere near the high power Bose system I had in my Corvette.
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2015 SL Traded for 2018 SV (80 Mile Range)
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

Flyct wrote: Looking at the 2023 SV+ specs the only thing of significance I could find is that that my 2020 SL Plus has leather vs the Cloth in the SV Plus. My 2016 SV had cloth and I actually preferred it to leather. It’s not as hot to sit on in the Florida heat.
Is the Boss sub included? If not can it be added?
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

The Bose system has never been a standalone option. First it was part of the Premium Package, then that and also standard on the SL. It seems to be history, now. Having had two Leafs with the Bose, and now one without it, it isn't a big deal in the SV. I wouldn't want the crappy audio system used in the S, but the non-Bose system used in the SV is fine.
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Flyct
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

UPDATE:

I called the dealer today since my credit card hasn’t been charged for the refundable deposit. After checking he came back and said Nissan updated the delivery date to an unspecified day in the month of October and asked if I still wanted to go forward with the order. I said yes but change deposit to $1,000 and please make sure I get a new buyers order with that deposit amount and have the deposit noted as fully refundable. They agreed.

Searching inventory within 250 miles there are no Leaf’s in stock at any dealers. There are about 6 “in transit” with slightly higher vin numbers.

I’m not in a rush since I have a perfectly good 2020 SL Plus. I just wanted to lock in the price and trade in value in writing.

What a different market than it was before Covid.
2023 Leaf SV Plus delivered 10/22/22 (214 mile published range)
2020 Leaf SL Plus (224 mile range) Traded in
2019 Leaf SL Plus. Totaled 11/20 (224 mile range)
2018 SV Traded for 2018 SL Plus )150 mile range)
2015 SL Traded for 2018 SV (80 Mile Range)
Flyct
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

I HATE LYING DEALERS!

Well after having a signed buyer's order and signing a credit card authorization form 4 days ago i got a call today saying that the car already has a deposit on it. What BS.

Monday when I signed the buyer's order and sent my credit card info, the sales rep said that the cashier had already gone home for the day and he would run the card Tuesday. I then specifically asked if the car was listed as sold to me and locked in so there is no issue later. He said ABSOLUTELY!

Well today after seeing that my credit card didn't show the charge yet I called. Sales rep said I needed to sign a new CC Auth with the $1000 instead of the $3k. I asked for a new buyer's order showing the new deposit amount. He sent the CC Auth form. I signed it and sent it to him.

Then I get a call telling me that someone already has a deposit on that car. What BS. I think they had a buyer that was willing to pay more than my deal and since they hadn't run my credit card yet I was SOL.

Now they tell me they have another identical Leaf coming in next week with a deposit on it. They said the customer paid the deposit without seeing the final numbers. He thinks there is a good chance that the buyer will not complete the sale once he sees the added on BS packed crap and the over MSRP price they will be asking. He said if that is the case then I can have that car at my negotiate price. If not he has a Deep Blue one coming in in October and I can have that one at my price. I said Gray or white, not BLUE, what don't you understand?

So they are trying to scam another buyer by tacking on another $3,000 in "Market Adjustment" and $3,500 in wax and tinting BS and not disclosing the final cost when they took the deposit. I HATE LYING DEALERS!
2023 Leaf SV Plus delivered 10/22/22 (214 mile published range)
2020 Leaf SL Plus (224 mile range) Traded in
2019 Leaf SL Plus. Totaled 11/20 (224 mile range)
2018 SV Traded for 2018 SL Plus )150 mile range)
2015 SL Traded for 2018 SV (80 Mile Range)
Flyct
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

ANOTHER UPDATE:

I was able to negotiate a deal with another dealer in the same town as the original dealer to trade my 2020 SL Plus for a 2023 SV Plus.

My 2020 Leaf is owned without being financed so negotiating was clean.

$8,123 plus my trade out the door. After factoring in the $7,500 tax credit this car will cost me $623 plus my car. So for $523 I get a 3 model year newer car with fresh warranty and zero miles.

So I loose the leather interior and the Bose system.
2023 Leaf SV Plus delivered 10/22/22 (214 mile published range)
2020 Leaf SL Plus (224 mile range) Traded in
2019 Leaf SL Plus. Totaled 11/20 (224 mile range)
2018 SV Traded for 2018 SL Plus )150 mile range)
2015 SL Traded for 2018 SV (80 Mile Range)
DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

Has anyone seen the LS shot for a fully charged 23 SV+?
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Flyct
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

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DougWantsALeaf wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:44 pm Has anyone seen the LS shot for a fully charged 23 SV+?
When I pick mine up in about 2 weeks it post the Leaf Spy info.
2023 Leaf SV Plus delivered 10/22/22 (214 mile published range)
2020 Leaf SL Plus (224 mile range) Traded in
2019 Leaf SL Plus. Totaled 11/20 (224 mile range)
2018 SV Traded for 2018 SL Plus )150 mile range)
2015 SL Traded for 2018 SV (80 Mile Range)
DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 2020 SL Plus to 2023 SV Plus

Thank you
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2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

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