Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

cwerdna said:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan.leaf.owners.group/permalink/5095356933868440/ (private group) is a 3 bar '11 SL he says with 61K miles. He also posted dates and mileages of purchase and bar losses. If accurate, I suspect it was originally a 5 or 6 bar car that was reset.

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Wow, no check EV light either. I wonder what happens when it hits 1 bar, can it go to 0 bars?

Sigh... the person at https://www.facebook.com/groups/NissanLeafOwners/posts/5135559379875343/ bought a '12 Leaf and apparently didn't know about the capacity bars. He finally posted a pic. It's a 5 bar loser right now w/65K miles.

FENIX POWER is a no go

Sigh...

This person at https://www.facebook.com/groups/AmericaNLO/posts/2185477128277352/ said:

We just bought this 2012 with 36K miles. EV is totally new to us. Alot to learn. we start out at 74 miles after all night charge. we drove to church (44 miles round trip) but had to stop for a rapid charge. No AC running. What options are there to improve charge? I know a new battery is a. option but 6k is a lot. suggestions?

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From the questions being asked and the reply at https://www.facebook.com/groups/AmericaNLO/posts/2185477128277352?comment_id=2185486764943055, they don't even know how many capacity bars it has.

LEAF: the too good to be true car

Has a nice ring to it, no ?

The Leaf is the closest thing we have to an affordable family EV. That, combined with the bad batteries of the first generation, is going to lead to the usual kinds of market abuse. I suggest that anyone who wants to do something about this situation post my used Leaf buying guide widely on social media. It can be freely distributed - just please don't alter it.

On the note of idiocy was another example I posted at https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=622439#p622439. They admit to knowing nothing about Leafs, spotted a '12 w/72K miles that doesn't even charge via J1772. They never answered our questions about battery condition nor their driving needs.

Fixing the unable to charge problem could be as cheap and simple as a blown diode to any number of things, some expensive to fix.

Almost everyone tells them to run away yet they ignore the advice and end it buying it!

LeftieBiker said:

The Leaf is the closest thing we have to an affordable family EV. That, combined with the bad batteries of the first generation, is going to lead to the usual kinds of market abuse.

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I've asked for quotes multiple times from an array of internet based used car buyers. NOT ONCE have I been asked for capacity bars. When the vendors are just as ignorant as the customers it is not abuse, it is just general ignorance.

I suppose you could forward your opus to CarMax, Carvana, etc. :lol:

cwerdna said:

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This person at https://www.facebook.com/groups/AmericaNLO/posts/2185477128277352/ said:
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Most people in that group and all groups like it are complete know-nothing idiots who would recommend getting a new 12V battery as a fix for any random problem with a LEAF! Some go as far as claiming, with zero evidence, that "most problems are caused by a bad 12V battery"! I gave up offering any information, tips, clues, where to look for more info, etc.

My 2012 Leaf is getting sold tonight to Car vana, she has 4 bars left and gets about 8 GOM's fully charged. I went out and found a used 2019 Leaf that never had a CAV sticker. She's my commuter and when fully charged I get 144 GOM's. So the 405 is no longer a night mare =)

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Most people in that group and all groups like it are complete know-nothing idiots who would recommend getting a new 12V battery as a fix for any random problem with a LEAF! Some go as far as claiming, with zero evidence, that "most problems are caused by a bad 12V battery"!

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This actually represents a group with some knowledge of the Leaf. The actual know-nothings are the ones who I am afraid will buy your old Leaf, not understanding that it has a range of barely 30 miles. Carvana also has to be faulted for buying it to sell, unless they actually plan to replace the battery first. I understand the bind that you were in; I just hope that the problem doesn't get passed to someone less able to deal with it.

Since the Fenix thread got locked ages ago, for giggles, I checked https://fenix.systems/ today. It's now back to returning 404 errors.

Some guy at https://www.facebook.com/groups/BayLeafs/posts/5558891227501826/ bought a 3 bar (9 bar loser) '11.