GRA wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:41 pm
WetEV wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:50 am
GRA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:44 pm
How is discussing the unreliability of charging as well as that of H2 stations a change of subject? Both are immature infrastructures that lack coverage, density, redundancy and reliability, which is why we need websites like Plugshare and the CAFCP's station status one for now.
Ah yes, roses are both red and have an odor, as do red herrings. Comparing the two isn't usually very meaningful.
Public charging isn't as necessary to a driver as H2 stations are. Most charging is at home or at work. All H2 fueling requires a trip to the H2 station.
It does now, that's the current state of the infrastructure, but it doesn't have to be the case. As one example (IIRR I've posted articles with links to other such systems, which IIRC are primarily being deployed in Japan at the moment):
https://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/index.p ... -stations/ Obviously, we're still at the dem/val or very early commercialization phase with these.
Which is all that hydrogen cars will ever be. Demos. Greenwash. Home conversion from fossil natural gas? A Stanley Steamer burning coal would make more sense.
GRA wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:41 pm
But since we're talking about trip charging beyond range from home, public charging is absolutely crucial, and in rural areas it's nowhere near numerous or reliable enough.
Of course you only want about trips beyond range from home, less than 5% of the miles and 1% of the trips.
Of course, you want to focus on the few failures rather than on the vast number of successful charges. Of course. We didn't expect anything different.
Of course.
GRA wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:41 pm
WetEV wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:50 am
Public charging is far more reliable than H2 stations are. Sure, there are issues with public charging,
you have had more issues on one trip than I've had with 1.5GWh of public charging.
Yet I'm hardly alone having 'issues'.
Sure, and that's all you want to talk about.
Compare with my public charging on EVgo:
2017-09-19 Success
2017-09-21 Success
2017-09-23 Success
2017-09-26 Success
2017-10-03 Success
2017-10-03 Failed, but worked less than 60 seconds later
2017-10-06 Success
2017-10-06 Success
2017-10-10 Success
2017-10-13 Success
2017-10-17 Success
2017-10-19 Success
2017-10-19 Success
2017-10-24 Success
2017-10-29 Success
2017-10-31 Success
2017-11-07 Success
2017-11-13 Success
2017-11-14 Success
2017-11-17 Success
2017-11-17 Success
2017-11-17 Success
2017-11-17 Failed, but worked less than 60 seconds later
2017-12-25 Success
2017-12-25 Success
And so on.
My successful charging history is far more typical than your fairy tales of woe.
Oh, sure there are failures, mostly on B
link machines. But reading your comments one might think that was most of what happened.
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