DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Rivian charging network

Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:50 pm

By supporting Chademo,.you do open the usage to your road warrior Tesla owners that have the adapter.
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Re: Rivian charging network

Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:14 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:50 pm
By supporting Chademo,.you do open the usage to your road warrior Tesla owners that have the adapter.
I don't know what makes you think Rivian is supporting CHAdeMO.

Your delusion about Telsa owners saving CHAdeMO from it's demise in N.A., just makes me LOL. :lol:
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Re: Rivian charging network

Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:13 am

Reading the various stories it is not my impression they will have CHAdeMO.

The level 3 network will be Rivian only, so it will surely be CCS. Why include a connector your customer can't use?

The destination network would likely be level 2 chargers only.
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Re: Rivian charging network

Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:19 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:50 pm
By supporting Chademo,.you do open the usage to your road warrior Tesla owners that have the adapter.
It would appear the network would run the same as the Tesla network. Charge access based on the car, not the plug. So it doesn't matter what kind of plug is used.
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Re: Rivian charging network

Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:25 pm

jlv wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:14 am
Your delusion about Telsa owners saving CHAdeMO from it's demise in N.A., just makes me LOL. :lol:
Yep

I drove up to Colorado last week and thought that a CHAdeMO adapter for our Tesla would be a handy thing to have in the car. I wasn't willing to buy one, so I asked the local 500+ member Tesla owner community local to me if I could rent one for a day. Not one person responded. This is a group of people that are committed to EVs and to Tesla advocacy, so I don't think I am too wrong is saying that the lack of response simply represented an overwhelming absence of this adapter in the community.
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Re: Rivian charging network

Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:03 pm

In Colorado we do have a few who have it in a group who do multistate road trips. A few in one of the clubs likes to do events in neighbouring states to promote Tesla and EVs. That said the vast majority of them I have interacted with do not have it and many have not heard of it. Even in the state there are places you can reach more easily with the adapter if you like to go way out which some of us do. I do agree most Tesla owners do not have an adapter and have not heard of it.

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Re: Rivian charging network

Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:31 am

salyavin wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:03 pm
In Colorado we do have a few who have it in a group who do multistate road trips. A few in one of the clubs likes to do events in neighbouring states to promote Tesla and EVs. That said the vast majority of them I have interacted with do not have it and many have not heard of it. Even in the state there are places you can reach more easily with the adapter if you like to go way out which some of us do. I do agree most Tesla owners do not have an adapter and have not heard of it.
I would agree. But I think it may change regionally. Here in BC you are somewhat limited where you can go with a Tesla EV if relying on Superchargers. However with a Chademo adapter you can pretty much go anywhere except the Alaskan Highway which will probably open up in the next year or two. We couldn’t have bought a Tesla if the adapter had not become available for the model 3. We don’t use ours a lot but it does get used depending on the routes we take.

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Re: Rivian charging network

Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:27 am

webeleafowners wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:31 am
I would agree. But I think it may change regionally.
True for sure, but Canada (and more so BC and Quebec) is the exception to the rule that CHAdeMO is pretty useless and dying fast.

Colorado is a shadow of Canada, in the sense of 1, not yet having a well developed Supercharger network; and 2, its DCFC network is almost all government developed (in this case, related to VW money.) CCS is on top, and CHAdeMO is a half-paralyzed appendage that might be better than nothing if the adapter is cheap.

A Tesla to CCS1 adapter will be so much more useful, and it will put this sorry CHAdeMO side-show to rest.
Or Tesla can complete its plans for Superchargers in Alamosa and Telluride, and then I won't care one way or another about any adapter ;)
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Re: Rivian charging network

Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:50 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:27 am
webeleafowners wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:31 am
I would agree. But I think it may change regionally.
True for sure, but Canada (and more so BC and Quebec) is the exception to the rule that CHAdeMO is pretty useless and dying fast.

Colorado is a shadow of Canada, in the sense of 1, not yet having a well developed Supercharger network; and 2, its DCFC network is almost all government developed (in this case, related to VW money.) CCS is on top, and CHAdeMO is a half-paralyzed appendage that might be better than nothing if the adapter is cheap.

A Tesla to CCS1 adapter will be so much more useful, and it will put this sorry CHAdeMO side-show to rest.
Or Tesla can complete its plans for Superchargers in Alamosa and Telluride, and then I won't care one way or another about any adapter ;)
Yah for sure. We are fine for the time being with the 50 KW limitation of the existing Chademo adapter. But if a manufacturer meets or beats with reliability a 100 kw CCS adapter we’ll sell our Chademo adapter. Right now our stops where we use the Chademo adapter are in places where we take lunch anyway so no real time lost.
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