# of miles before losing the first battery capacity bar

0-10,000
7%
28
10,001-20,000
20%
85
20,001-30,000
28%
115
30,001-40,000
24%
99
40,001-50,000
12%
50
50,001-60,000
4%
16
60,001+
6%
24
 
Total votes: 417
powersurge
Posts: 1743
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:24 am
Delivery Date: 06 Dec 2014
Location: Long Island, NY

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Sun May 03, 2020 3:19 am

PS - I have 69K miles and still have 90 % SOH

DaveinOlyWA
Posts: 15678
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:43 pm
Delivery Date: 16 Nov 2019
Leaf Number: 319862
Location: Olympia, WA
Contact: Website

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Sun May 03, 2020 6:20 am

powersurge wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:19 am
PS - I have 69K miles and still have 90 % SOH
Its actually John's car. I have a Plus.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 19,653 mi, 93.47% SOH
My Blog; http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kogoyo
Posts: 1
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:58 pm
Delivery Date: 23 Jun 2020
Leaf Number: 016560

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:36 pm

New to the forum, owner of the same 2013 Leaf (built dec 2012) for 6+ years. Bought it one y o with 2500 km (1500 miles). Lost my first cap bar on March 30th 2018 at 137 367 km (85 374 miles). I QC several times a month, never leave it fully charged, always charge to 80% if arriving home with low percentage. Still have 11 cap bars and now with 201 895 km (125 479 miles). Expecting to lose second bar any day now. Dont have Leafspy, cant check SOH. My range is 120 km (75 miles) on country roads, summer-ish time.
I live in southern half of Sweden.

arnis
Posts: 1034
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:21 pm
Delivery Date: 23 Jul 2014
Leaf Number: 015896
Location: Estonia, Europe

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:54 am

Update from Estonia:

Wohoo. Summer came sooner and BMS started dropping SOC and Hx values since then.
Lost first bar today at 173 166 km or 107 600 miles Vehicle is exactly 6 years old :)
I hope for first place price :D :D :D

Likely SOC will go up in late autumn as always. I should mention that actual range did not drop
15% like SOC says. I would say closer to 10% of range loss. Maybe 12%
Drop happened at 84,65% SOH and 80.01% Hx. Likely stats will go up again in late autumn, like they always do.
Vehicle was pretty much always charged to 80%. 211 QC sessions. 80% of those for 10 minutes. 10% for 20 minutes.
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Reticuli
Posts: 17
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:34 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Feb 2013
Leaf Number: 421182

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:56 pm

Still haven't lost my second bar yet. Lost the first one around 80K miles. I am at 124K miles now and leaf spy says that I am at 78.2% SOH. Should be this spring.

I have owned my 2013 leaf since it was new. Still running great. No maintenance.

DougWantsALeaf
Posts: 2775
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 8:21 pm
Delivery Date: 18 May 2013
Leaf Number: 407811
Location: Chicago North Side

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:07 pm

You can't complain about that. If you think that back in 2013 when we bought our Leafs, the 2011s were already losing bars...so 120k miles is pretty awesome.
2019 S Plus (93.86% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (93.35% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

SageBrush
Forum Supporter
Posts: 6378
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:28 am
Delivery Date: 13 Feb 2017
Location: NM

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:34 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:07 pm
You can't complain about that.
Are you kidding ?
It is a *terrible* result, to lose 22% of range in 6-8 years.

That others are worse is a fool's consolation. And for context, consider this: that is one of the better car results yet if falls 5 years shy of the Nissan promises of longevity.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

DaveinOlyWA
Posts: 15678
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:43 pm
Delivery Date: 16 Nov 2019
Leaf Number: 319862
Location: Olympia, WA
Contact: Website

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:44 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:34 pm
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:07 pm
You can't complain about that.
Are you kidding ?
It is a *terrible* result, to lose 22% of range in 6-8 years.

That others are worse is a fool's consolation. And for context, consider this: that is one of the better car results yet if falls 5 years shy of the Nissan promises of longevity.
SOH does not equal capacity. 2 bars lost would imply a 21¼% loss
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 19,653 mi, 93.47% SOH
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SageBrush
Forum Supporter
Posts: 6378
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:28 am
Delivery Date: 13 Feb 2017
Location: NM

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:16 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:44 pm
SageBrush wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:34 pm
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:07 pm
You can't complain about that.
Are you kidding ?
It is a *terrible* result, to lose 22% of range in 6-8 years.

That others are worse is a fool's consolation. And for context, consider this: that is one of the better car results yet if falls 5 years shy of the Nissan promises of longevity.
SOH does not equal capacity. 2 bars lost would imply a 21¼% loss
lol
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

downeykp
Posts: 746
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:11 am
Delivery Date: 31 May 2011
Leaf Number: 1931
Location: Keaau, HI

Re: Poll : Number of miles before losing the first bar

Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:55 pm

How about the least amount of miles and the most bars lost.
My 2011 is at 38,000 mi. and have lost 7 bars.
2011 Black Leaf SL+QC Vin. 1931
Res. 6-14-10 Order 1-25-11
EVSE: Mod'd Ver. 2 Nissan L1
Delivered 5-31-11

10 years 38000mi. 5 bars

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