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2019 Audi E-Tron eligible for up to a $13,000 discount-if you first go to Costco
https://www.greencarreports.com/new...o-a-13-000-discount-if-you-first-go-to-costco



If you love the Audi E-Tron electric SUV but the premium price has kept you from going for one so far, a deal good through the end of March might just provide the new numbers to make it happen.

According to our partner site CarsDirect, which pronounces this the best deal on the 2019 Audi E-Tron since its arrival, you can now save as much as $13,000 off the sticker price. With the starting price (including the $995 destination charge) at $75,795, that makes the effective starting price with the deal just $62,795.

It’s not just a low price, either. CarsDirect points out that one of the discounts, a $3,000 “Marketing Allowance,” can be combined with 0.99% financing for 66 months.

For the E-Tron, 2019 actually still is the current model year. The 2020 Audi E-Tron is expected to carry over mostly unchanged but with slight range improvements.

The enabler of $2,000 of that is specifically Costco; the bulk retailer, which is one of few major retailers to have removed its electric-car chargers in the past decade, is offering a $2,000 discount to those who buy or lease an E-Tron through the Costco Auto Program. That requires a Costco membership, but they start at $60 and there really isn’t much additional outlay to qualify. . . .
 
Sigh (insert Picard-Facepalm.GIF here).
Electrek:
Audi e-tron electric SUVs tell owners they need an oil change
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Oddly, on cnbc.com, I received an ad on the right for 2019 e-tron. When I clicked on it, I was taken to a page on audioffers.com which comes up with a listing of 172 new e-trons. All of them are 2019 model year. And. from the location filter, the 172 covers all Bay Area dealers.

Isn't this a lot for new 2019 vehicles given that it's 2020 and around the time for 2021 vehicles to start showing up at dealers soon (for cars on a conventional model year schedule)?

https://www.audioffers.com/san-francisco/new-inventory/index.htm?gvModel=e-tron&normalBodyStyle=SUV&make=Audi&ddcref=t2_programmatic-display_PHDP_AO_western_San-Francisco_x_action_leads_2019_etron_PHD_x_x_2020-01-07&geoZip=95036 is an example (not my zip code) but includes the same results.
 
cwerdna said:
Isn't this a lot for new 2019 vehicles given that it's 2020 and around the time for 2021 vehicles to start showing up at dealers soon (for cars on a conventional model year schedule)?
There is no 2020 eTron SUV. The 2019 year has been extended.
 
WetEV said:
cwerdna said:
Isn't this a lot for new 2019 vehicles given that it's 2020 and around the time for 2021 vehicles to start showing up at dealers soon (for cars on a conventional model year schedule)?
There is no 2020 eTron SUV. The 2019 year has been extended.
Weird... Yeah... I noticed when I go to build at https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-e-tron, it comes up with 2019.

Confusingly, there is a 2020 e-tron Sportback (https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-e-tron-sportback).

I wonder if the 2019 extension causes further confusion and loses Audi some sales. Some people don't want to buy last year's model as new due to potential resale value hit.
 
cwerdna said:
WetEV said:
cwerdna said:
Isn't this a lot for new 2019 vehicles given that it's 2020 and around the time for 2021 vehicles to start showing up at dealers soon (for cars on a conventional model year schedule)?
There is no 2020 eTron SUV. The 2019 year has been extended.
Weird... Yeah... I noticed when I go to build at https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-e-tron, it comes up with 2019.

Confusingly, there is a 2020 e-tron Sportback (https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-e-tron-sportback).

I wonder if the 2019 extension causes further confusion and loses Audi some sales. Some people don't want to buy last year's model as new due to potential resale value hit.
Originally there was to be both a Sportback and an updated SUV. For a while, both were in doubt. The Sportback came back.

E-tron sales are down 37% in the US, Audi in general is down 35%. I would guess the lack of a 2020 probably hurts. Europe is doing quite well, on the other hand.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/audi-e-tron-top-selling-150000701.html
 
I actually saw an e-tron ad on TV earlier today on CNN. It was this one: https://www.ispot.tv/ad/nNKO/2019-audi-e-tron-audi-at-your-door-the-next-frontier-of-electric-t1.
We see a brave space explorer getting ready to embark on a mission -- before this intrepid astronaut is revealed to be a little girl in a spacesuit, getting ready to go for a drive in her mom's Audi e-tron. Audi says the e-tron is the next frontier of electric vehicles and offers remote shopping, test-drive and delivery options.
I wonder if it was national or something injected only for my geographic area?
 
DougWantsALeaf said:
What is the "dual charging port" option on the eTron? I was going through the website, and didn't understand what that meant.
Maybe
Charging, by the way, is ambidextrous on some e-trons. A standard left-side CCS port can be joined by a right-side, AC-only charge port, on cars equipped with the 22-kw home charging setup and its two on-board chargers.

from https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1116347_audi-details-battery-for-2019-e-tron-electric-suv? I think that might be n/a on US e-trons.
 
DougWantsALeaf said:
What is the "dual charging port" option on the eTron? I was going through the website, and didn't understand what that meant.
Both the 22kW charger and the dual charging port are not available in the USA, as far as I know.

The USA has only the standard 11kW left side setup.
 
DougWantsALeaf said:
Beyond home 100amp charging, I can't say I know of any 22kW AC stations around.
There probably are few or none in the US. It's probably European 3-phase AC charging over a Mennekes Type 2 connector. We don't have Mennekes Type 2 here.

See https://insideevs.com/news/342860/renault-ends-sale-of-zoe-q90-with-43-kw-ac-charging-capability/.

J1772 AFAIK allows for up to 80 amps. 80 amps * 240 volts = 19,200 watts = 19.2 kW. IIRC, there's virtually none that go that high over J1772 (hard to even find over 30 or 32 amp J1772 in public). 1st few gens of North American Tesla wall connector could go up to 80 amps over their connector.
 
DougWantsALeaf said:
When I was configuring the Sportback, it offered it to me as an option.

One of the three versions of Sportback shows the dual charge ports (CCS on left, J1772 on right) that would support a dual charger. I wasn't able to actually get the dual charger, or maybe I did, but I'm tired of messing with configurations. So I'm wrong on the dual charge ports, and very likely wrong on the 22kW charger.


DougWantsALeaf said:
Beyond home 100amp charging, I can't say I know of any 22kW AC stations around.

J-1772 can't handle 100 Amps.

https://www.plugshare.com/location/115192

And a few other locations. Is at the limit of J-1772, 80 Amps. 19.2kW. Almost no cars can use this. A very few older Tesla Model S cars can.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772#Charging

Not clear even if an Audi with "connect package with 22kW charger" car would charge any faster than 11kW from a single J1772. You might need to take two stations to get that...
 
GCC:
Audi boosts specs on 2021 e-tron family, lowers price


https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/08/20200806-audi.html


. . . New for model year 2021, the Audi e-tron model lines receive revised packaging, including attractive entry pricing with a new Premium trim level. As a result, the e-tron SUV is offered at $65,900 starting MSRP for the model year 2021, a decrease of close to $9,000 from the starting MSRP of the model year 2019 Premium Plus e-tron.

The e-tron lineup also receives a number of technical spec enhancements for improved utility. Through optimized drive system hardware and software adjustments, the 2021 e-tron achieves efficiency improvements resulting in an EPA-estimated range of 222 miles, an increase of 18 miles. Meanwhile, the e-tron Sportback delivers an EPA-estimated range of 218 miles. . . .

For a more efficient configuration, thanks to a number of optimizations, the front electric motor is able to be entirely disengaged, significantly reducing power usage when not needed. Only when the driver demands more power or traction do both motors spring into action.

In addition, the usable amount of the high-voltage battery has increased for the model year 2021 e-tron lineup. The battery in the Audi e-tron and e-tron Sportback have a total capacity of 95 kWh and now gives customers access to a net energy figure of 86.5 kWh—almost 3 kWh more than 2019 e-tron model. The energy buffer is designed to help ensure customers enjoy sustained battery performance throughout the life of the vehicle.

Enhancing the charging experience are dual charge ports on the driver and passenger side of the vehicles, newly available on the Premium Plus trims of the e-tron and e-tron Sportback.
 
I pulled up to my local evgo today (1 DC and 2AC plugs, AC are free). First surprise, was that 2 other EVs were there. A bolt and an A3 with and eYron badge.

I pulled in and saw the Eton badge but thought no way this thing rides lower than my leaf. Walking around i see its the plug in A3 (with AC only charging) . I didnt know the plug in carried the eTron badge.

The bolt driver was sleeping and not actually charging, so asked him to move so I could dc charge.
 
DougWantsALeaf said:
I pulled up to my local evgo today (1 DC and 2AC plugs, AC are free). First surprise, was that 2 other EVs were there. A bolt and an A3 with and eYron badge.

I pulled in and saw the Eton badge but thought no way this thing rides lower than my leaf. Walking around i see its the plug in A3 (with AC only charging) . I didnt know the plug in carried the eTron badge.
I think you've mistaken the dead A3 e-tron PHEV for an e-tron BEV.

https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=531046#p531046

A3 e-tron PHEV can't be DC FCed and has is inlet in the front nose. e-tron (no A) BEV has charging inlet on the side and is a much larger vehicle.
 
Yes, that was the car. The new owner of the car was trying to figure out the l2 va l3 charging...only having l2 on the car. I didn't think that car came with the eTron badge on the back of it though.
 
I gritted my teeth through "It's LITERALLY like a giant bank vault" but bailed when he said "It's LITERALLY like driving a giant piece of solid metal around the track." I'm afraid that Millenials LITERALLY make me nauseous. That and why exactly did he turn off the stability control?

The car does seem a bit like an Old School Cadillac...
 
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