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powersurge said:I think that a 2016 with a bad battery would be in the $9-10K direction. For $15k you can get an already great, car, possibly newer than that.
The potential buyer is taking all of the risk and would need to do all the work of negotiations with Nissan, and then not have the car for a week... At least.
What would be the risk? You have till April 2021 to drop 1 bar. I believe a couple SOH points. With regular usage, the leaf battery drops at least 5% SOH annually.. of course more at more extreme climates.
Also, before I take a dime from the perspective buyer, WE can take this leaf to do a battery health test and verify that the BMS version is current at a Nissan Service center so buyer can see with their own eyes. So there is ZERO risk on that.
Also, this is the LEAF EV forum.. has anyone with the 8th bar ever been denied a battery replacement or had to "negotiate". It is automatic. I know, I've replaced the battery on a 2013 under the 5year warranty. Also, it takes ONE whole day because service orders the battery ahead of time. I can find the work order if you want proof. If anyone with 8 bars under warranty that had problems getting the battery replaced, please feel free to share your experience.
The benefits between a $15500 2016 Leaf with a "good" battery and $15500 with "bad" battery should be obvious especially to someone with over 1000 posts. But for the benefit of others, I'll spell it out. You could spend $15500 for a 2016 with a good 3 year old battery or you could spend $15500 to get leaf that could have a brand new battery. so Theoretically, buyer can decide to change out the battery in April of 2021.. and have a 2016 leaf with a Brand New battery whereas the "Good" leaf would then have a 5 year old battery. Ding ding ding ding ding…… What is the Value on that.. Obviously $8000 Value added is what you are telling me.
I understand that there is the "risk" you mention. But I think with members having 4000 and 1500 posts knocking my price. With the information given and your EXTENSIVE Leaf Forum Knowledge, do you want to put a wager that it won’t drop the 9th bar within warranty period. I don’t need 1500 or 4000 post to know that it is guaranteed and there is no risk. Anyone that’s driven the leaf or ran Leaf Spy would know this. Leaf battery experts are welcome to argue for and against.
Also.. in terms of price.. I don’t think I am taking advantage of any buyer.. it is a GREAT price for its selling point.. and again.. I am not asking for more than a “good” leaf price. There are buyers that would look for a car in this condition for the advantage listed. Its a little wishful to think that this should be priced at $10k.. which is much less than a 2016 Leaf S with the 24whr battery. And even a 2015 Leaf for that matter.