DougWantsALeaf
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32k isn’t a bad price if you get the 3750 off on top of it.
GM's decision to offer Bolts without DCFC is **so** lamecwerdna said:https://www.chevroletoffremont.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&year=2019&make=Chevrolet&model=Bolt%20EV&sort=salePrice%7Casc decided to discount 2 base Bolt LT’s with no options (not even DC FC inlet) a bit more off than the others (about $11.5K off), so they're openly advertised at just under $26K. The rest of the LT’s aren’t as heavily discounted. My guess is that it’s a teaser to try to get you there to upsell you to a more expensive/more well-equipped car.
So far as I know, it cannot be added to the cars on the dealer lotcwerdna said:Oh well... buyer beware. If one wants it, it's a $750 option on both trims (for the US models).
Correct.SageBrush said:So far as I know, it cannot be added to the cars on the dealer lotcwerdna said:Oh well... buyer beware. If one wants it, it's a $750 option on both trims (for the US models).
I know, but ask any 40 kWh or 62 kWh owner if they covet reliable 50 kW DCFC'gcwerdna said:FWIW, it's not like the Bolt is an awesome road trip vehicle anyway.
Yeah, but Federal tax credit is only $3750 on GM EVs/PHEVs right now.DougWantsALeaf said:That’s a pretty sweet price with fed discount included.
cwerdna said:Yeah, but Federal tax credit is only $3750 on GM EVs/PHEVs right now.DougWantsALeaf said:That’s a pretty sweet price with fed discount included.
For those in CA w/a low enough income, they can get another $2500 (https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/eligible-vehicles https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/income-eligibility#income-cap). And, some utilities have rebates. PG&E provides a one-time $800: https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/solar-and-vehicles/options/clean-vehicles/electric/clean-fuel-rebate-for-electric-vehicles.page.
Cheapest Bolt (LT w/no options) is being openly advertised for $25,240 (MSRP $37,495): https://www.chevroletoffremont.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&year=2019&make=Chevrolet&model=Bolt%20EV&sort=salePrice%7Casc.
DaveinOlyWA said:Two people who went from a 2015 and 2014 claim the seats are better.
LEAF S + with climate. This levels the playing field a bit on the tech side and even with Bolt discounts, the price as well if you qualify for full tax credit.
LeftieBiker said:LEAF S + with climate. This levels the playing field a bit on the tech side and even with Bolt discounts, the price as well if you qualify for full tax credit.
Are you saying that the S plus has a heat pump, that you would like to see that, or...?
WetEV said:DaveinOlyWA said:Two people who went from a 2015 and 2014 claim the seats are better.
From a test drive and some test sitting, the seats are better. Went from unacceptable to sort of OK.
Your experience will differ.
The Bolt is the most compelling car on price/range, and has been in production for a while with reasonably good results. If you are looking to buy, I'd suggest at least checking out the Bolt.
I don't recall if we revisited this but https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/battery-conditioning.33279/#post-512173 talks about Bolt cooling the battery to 27 C (which would be 80.6 F) when plugged in.WetEV said:cwerdna said:If I were in the mild climate PNW, sure, I wouldn't find thermal management to be a big advantage.
You may not find thermal management much of an advantage in the Bay area as well.
Do you have LeafSpy? Is it linked to Dropbox?
If so, look at the battery temperatures you have had. A TMS should not be designed to cool the battery below dew point anywhere, and a dew point of 35 C (95 F) has been recorded. To cool the battery to 35 C, some parts would be cooler... So 40 C or 45 C cooling thresholds are more common. However, for USA only, 35 C isn't out of the question as a cooling threshold, and that is what GM seems to use.
I think, from various reports and a "Torque Pro" log of a Bolt from California, that the Bolt's cooling threshold is about 35C while charging or operating. The highest battery temperature in the log was 37C, over a summer.
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