Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

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Heh about MIHC. Well, the main character Juliana Crain isn't that great, IMHO. Ditto for Frank Frink.

Trade minister Tagomi and John Smith are great! Inspector Kido does a good job, as well. The collectibles shopkeeper who caters to the Japanese is another interesting character.
 
LeftieBiker said:
Not all of the Cylons were robots. Watch Galactica '80 again, if you don't believe me. I actually liked about half the eps of that, and have one left that I never saw.
Hmmm.... well, the explanation I gave was what Apollo told others in a vehicle (to Boxey and others, IIRC), probably in the 1st episode: https://web.archive.org/web/20161124144412/http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Saga_of_a_Star_World.

I believe they were driving around on that casino planet.

Here we go: https://web.archive.org/web/20161115083941/http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Cylons_(TOS).

Some folks here probably think we're nuts w/all thread drift. :) I might talk more about another ST:D ep this weekend.
 
This is just drift, not OT, so...

The humans didn't know about the hybrids in the first version of the series, IIRC. One (or two?) was featured in one of the first eps of BSG '80; he/they die in a Cylon ship crash on Earth. (There was also some indication, IIRC, that Lucifer and one or two others might be at least partially biological.) You may argue that this means I'm wrong, but BSG '80, squirm-inducing as it could be, was the same universe, almost all the same characters, same basic plot - and a continuation of the meta plot from the first version. Oh, and produced and largely written by the same guy. ;) Anyway, my original point - and I DID TOO have one - was that the second BSG got much more of the plotting from the first than I had recalled.
 
LeftieBiker said:
I wrote "skim" rather than "skip around." Don't worry. I'm talking about scanning forward passed dull scenes, that's all. Heh - at least my OCD only encompasses me. ;)
With The Expanse, what you might think of as a dull scene ends up being important to the narrative a few episodes later. My suggestion is to just watch through them (or rewatch them later on if you must skip them). By the 4th episode the overall pace picks up considerably.
 
I'm good at both skimming parts of scenes (although these streaming TiVo apps are pretty terrible for doing it) and at guessing for context. Seriously, if there is going to be a test on this, I'm going to skip school that day. ;)
 
'Star Trek: Discovery' Gets Renewed for a Third Season
https://www.etonline.com/star-trek-discovery-gets-renewed-for-a-third-season-120595
 
Woah! S2:E7 "Light and Shadows" had a Star Trek III reference (besides the ongoing search for Spock) and a TOS reference that relates to Pike. I don't want to spoil it... yet?
 
I finished S:1 EP:4 last night. Jeez Louise, it's hard to take what passes for science on a JJA show. Microscopic lifeforms underpinning the universe? Maybe - it was there for the taking in Star Wars, and Abrams never passes up a free...anything. But literally mushroom spores??? My housemate watched the first 10 minutes of the ep, and then politely asked to be excused. I find the series watchable, but between those fat, bombastic Klingons (stolen from "Prometheus," they are essentially Engineers with ridges and warts and issues with syntax) and the skinny, Bombastic Star Fleet officers, it's hard to become attached. I suppose that nice macro-micro seal-like creature is relatively sympathetic...
 
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FWIW, the Paul Stamets in the show is named after a real life Paul Stamets (https://fungi.com/pages/about-us). Was mentioned in one of the early eps of After Trek, which I'd seen all eps of.

They do tone down the tedious Klingon dialogue scenes, eventually.

As for the officers, well.. yeah, at least for awhile on Disco, a bunch of the characters act as though they have a chip on their shoulder. The guy that plays Lorca does a pretty good job. Doug Jones (plays Saru) does a great job in one of the recent eps.

I wish I could find a quote along the lines of "can you imagine what the pitch for the show would be?" Answer included something about a ship being propelled by mushrooms.

The second Harry Mudd episode was quite good.

The show has quite a few twists and there's a good one that begins on S1:E9.
 
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Hahaha! Yes, those scenes were usually tedious. :(

BTW, anyone watching the extra videos like The Ready Room? You can see them at https://www.cbs.com/shows/star-trek-discovery/, https://www.facebook.com/pg/StarTrek/videos/?ref=page_internal or https://www.facebook.com/pg/StarTrekCBS/videos/?ref=page_internal. I only watched the first one for the season and I frankly found it a lot worse than After Trek, which I enjoyed and they cancelled. I believe this stuff is the "replacement".

BTW, I watched this awhile ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBgW0YNHSfw.
KlingonTeacher
Published on Sep 25, 2017
I had a chance to meet Klingon language creator Marc Okrand to talk about Star Trek: Discovery, the new show that included lots of Klingon dialogue.

See and hear the "Master of Klingon" himself pronounce some of the newest words heard in Star Trek: Discovery.

The use of recently discovered words shows how up to date the creators of Star Trek have been working to get the Klingon correct.
I stumbled across the Klingon teacher "speaking" Klingon quickly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seZZaWT43lA.
 
Ok. Season 2 is over. There was a lot of action in the finale but numerous plot holes (not surprising). There were definitely some great fight scenes in the finale and a few eps prior to it.

There was an amazing amount of space battle scenes in the finale esp. for a Trek show.

At least they finally explained why we hadn't heard of Disco, spore drive, Spock's foster sister, etc. in Trek movies/shows that preceded Disco.
 
I watched the whole two seasons, and will comment in detail later. Overall, I wasn't terribly impressed. (I dumped The Expanse after slightly more than one ep. I'll explain that, too.) I canceled the CBS AA subscription this morning, and will be getting HBO through Prime tonight, to watch the last half season of GOT.
 
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Bummer! :(

I loved that we got to see the baffle plate rupturing incident in Disco that we heard about it https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Menagerie,_Part_I_(episode). And, we got further confirmation when Pike sees himself in that wheelchair.

I am looking forward to season 3 of Disco and The Expanse season 4. You should've stuck around for the latter thru at least S1:E4 "CQB", which was really good. S3:E5 "Triple Point" was also really good. I'm sure there were others.

If it's worth any consolation, I plan to turn back on Amazon Prime for a month or two for The Expanse S4 and the next season of Man in the High Castle.

Did CBS AA try to give you an extra month for free when you canceled?
 
They tried to give me two months at 50% off, so essentially the same discount.

I'll talk abut (Re)Discovery later, as I haven't eaten supper yet. I stopped watching the expanse in part, ironically, because the casting director(s) seemed to love pale, short white men with beards. So instead I watched STD, which seems to have a largely werewolf cast...
 
LeftieBiker said:
I dumped The Expanse after slightly more than one ep. I'll explain that, too.
It starts very slow. I really suggest watching first 3 episodes before making a decision on it -- it really picks up the pace after that.

LeftieBiker said:
I stopped watching the expanse in part, ironically, because the casting director(s) seemed to love pale, short white men with beards
That's really sad, because that description definitely doesn't represent the cast of The Expanse. Seasons 2 and 3 are full of strong female leads. You are definitely doing yourself (and the show) a disfavor.

(I just finished the 8th novel, Tiamat's Wrath, and OMG, the overall story lives up to the term "the expanse" over and over again when you no longer think possible)
 
We are going to be keeping Prime for a while, for HBO and GOT, so I do plan to try the Expanse again. Something else that turned me off: little ships with 25' ceilings. If they were going to use sound stages, it would have been easy enough to build some damned lower ceilings!
 
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