Gen 1 GM Volt Plug-In Hybrid (2011-2015)

redLEAF · Apr 9, 2015

Weatherman said:
You like that one?

How about this one, for fun?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-09/another-electric-car-bites-dust-chevy-volt-go-way-aztek" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"...it has finally met its fate on the recycling lot, which as many had predicted long ago, will be right next to that other GM "shock and awe" concept: the infamous Pontiac Aztek."

Must have been a slow news day ... just a car model (major in this case) changeover; nothing to see here, move along please ... will be interesting to see how this affects the discounting of the remaining inventory of new ones still on dealer lots

Weatherman · Apr 9, 2015

Zero Hedge is notorious for amping up the negative spin to maximum on even the most trivial of subjects. That's their bread and butter.

I mostly read their posts for the comments. They are very entertaining in a tin-foil-hat kind of way.

LTLFTcomposite · Apr 9, 2015

“When someone thinks of an electric vehicle they don’t think of Chevrolet; they think Toyota or Tesla.”

Toyota? Really?

A couple other interesting trends in that table though: Note the Tahoe numbers falling off in favor of the Traverse, and check out the big numbers for the equinox... IMO that continues to be the Volt's real problem, it's the wrong form factor, competing in the segment where the margins are naturally at their thinnest. Reality check though, it all pales in comparison to the pickup trucks. Also note that the ELR might as well not even exist, the discontinuance of which hardly received mention on this thread.

garsh · Apr 10, 2015

LTLFTcomposite said:
“When someone thinks of an electric vehicle they don’t think of Chevrolet; they think Toyota or Tesla.”
Toyota? Really?

Well, if "electric" == "hybrid", then the Prius is the best known vehicle to the lay person.

It's amazing how many people I run into who still have no idea that full-electric vehicles exist, and are flabbergasted when I tell them that I never use gasoline.

TomT · Apr 22, 2015

An interesting report on Volt gas usage versus other PHEVs...

http://www.hybridcars.com/study-shows-chevy-volt-can-burn-less-gas-than-any-other-phev/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

pkulak · Apr 22, 2015

TomT said:
An interesting report on Volt gas usage versus other PHEVs...

http://www.hybridcars.com/study-shows-chevy-volt-can-burn-less-gas-than-any-other-phev/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well, that's not surprising. I bet the Leaf burns even less gas!

TomT · Apr 22, 2015

Particularly on trips over 70 miles on the freeway when it doesn't "burn" anything because it stays home due to range! :lol:

pkulak said:
Well, that's not surprising. I bet the Leaf burns even less gas!

finman100 · Apr 27, 2015

huh. so funny. i can do 70 miles on the freeway no problem. and no gas stops either. huh. go figure.

GRA · Apr 27, 2015

finman100 said:
huh. so funny. i can do 70 miles on the freeway no problem. and no gas stops either. huh. go figure.

The question is for how long, and in what seasons will you be able to do that? You do live in the best climate for battery longevity in the country, but it does rain and occasionally snow there. Most people expect to be able to use their heaters and defrosters without worrying that doing so may prevent them from reaching their destination.

TomT · Apr 27, 2015

But after that 70 miles, you are done for a while... That is not acceptable to many...

finman100 said:
huh. so funny. i can do 70 miles on the freeway no problem. and no gas stops either. huh. go figure.

LTLFTcomposite · Apr 28, 2015

TomT said:
But after that 70 miles, you are done for a while... That is not acceptable to many...

finman100 said:

huh. so funny. i can do 70 miles on the freeway no problem. and no gas stops either. huh. go figure.

Click to expand...

Or he just uses a gas car for the longer outings, the usual hypocrisy MO for a phev hater.

redLEAF · Apr 28, 2015

No new Volt for you ...

GM pulls plug on Holden Volt in Australia (from AW dated 4/27/15)

Next-gen Volt to be LHD-only as just 246 Volts find homes Down Under

GM has made the decision not to produce the next-generation Volt in right-hand drive for foreign markets, which spells the end for the Holden Volt, according to a report from Motoring. The Holden version of the plug-in hybrid has been on sale since 2012 in Australia, but a grand total of only 246 examples have found buyers since the car's launch.

The Holden Volt for Australia, Chevrolet Volt for North America, Opel Ampera for Europe and its Vauxhall Ampera twin are all assembled at Detroit's Hamtramck Assembly plant, making the departure of an RHD model a big deal for the plant and the next-generation Volt, which is set to debut as a 2016 model.

Motoring cites the Australian market's general aversion to EVs for the lack of success for the Holden Volt -- the Nissan Leaf and the Mitsubishi i-MiEV have also done poorly there. A price of $60,000 Australian dollars, which translates to approximately $47,100 U.S. dollars, is one of the factors cited by the publication for the lack of success for the Volt.

"Electric and hybrid vehicles in the (Australian) passenger car market make up less than 3 percent of sales," Holden's director of communication Sean Poppitt told Motoring. "I don't think it's fair to point out any one model. It's not like the Leaf or any other cars are selling strongly here."

There's no word yet on whether the Chevrolet Bolt EV, which is expected to debut as a 2017 model in the U.S., will be produced in RHD form for Vauxhall.

pkulak · Apr 28, 2015

Eh, all the RHD countries have had the Outlander PHEV for years now. No sympathy from me!

finman100 · Apr 28, 2015

the Leaf does the job for me. even the 300 mile trips (no gas).

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=19115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

just stating my story. no hate. just like to set some 'records' straight.

Cheers!

LTLFTcomposite · May 1, 2015

And there it is:

http://www.hybridcars.com/idaho-national-lab-shows-chevy-volts-go-nearly-as-far-on-electricity-as-pure-evs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now we just need GM to make it in a crossover.

GRA · Jun 8, 2015

Via GCR:

High-Volume Chevy Volt Dealer: How To Sell Successfully, Lessons Learned

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098599_high-volume-chevy-volt-dealer-how-to-sell-successfully-lessons-learned" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting that the owner says they started to see a shift from early adopters to early majority buyers, beginning last October.

LKK · Jun 8, 2015

GRA said:
Via GCR:

High-Volume Chevy Volt Dealer: How To Sell Successfully, Lessons Learned

Click to expand...

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098599_high-volume-chevy-volt-dealer-how-to-sell-successfully-lessons-learned" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting that the owner says they started to see a shift from early adopters to early majority buyers, beginning last October.

I hope this is true. A change from early adopters to early majority buyers is good for all EVs. It means the shift to electrification is gaining traction.

GRA · Jun 8, 2015

LKK said:
GRA said:

Via GCR:

High-Volume Chevy Volt Dealer: How To Sell Successfully, Lessons Learned

Click to expand...

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098599_high-volume-chevy-volt-dealer-how-to-sell-successfully-lessons-learned" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting that the owner says they started to see a shift from early adopters to early majority buyers, beginning last October.

Click to expand...

I hope this is true. A change from early adopters to early majority buyers is good for all EVs. It means the shift to electrification is gaining traction.

We can hope, although at the moment I think it's probably limited to PHEVs. I expect we'll have to wait until 2017+, for (Gen 2) BEVs to also cross the chasm.

BernieTx · Jun 8, 2015

GRA said:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098599_high-volume-chevy-volt-dealer-how-to-sell-successfully-lessons-learned
"We have seen a shift in the last months, beginning around last October," Jeanson said. "These people come in and say, 'I have heard about electric car, can you give me some info please?'

"The only thing they know is that the car exists, and they are open-minded about considering electrics as their next vehicle," he continued. "They know virtually nothing or they have very low knowledge overall."

~~I didn't know much when I bought my 2014 Volt. It was more like a dream, that I could actually get to work on batteries. I did ask about the batteries, because of the Texas summer heat.~~

GRA · Jul 14, 2015

Via GCR:

2012 Chevrolet Volt Racks Up 250,000 Miles, One-Third Electric, Rest At 39 MPG

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1099112_2012-chevrolet-volt-racks-up-250000-miles-one-third-electric-rest-at-39-mpg

Since taking delivery of his Volt on March 28, 2012, Belmer calculates lifetime "blended" fuel economy of 59.4 mpg (both electric and gasoline miles). That's better than the rated 50 mpg combined of the most efficient car without a plug sold in the U.S., the Toyota Prius hybrid. When operating on gasoline alone, he has averaged 38.6 mpg, slightly higher than the EPA rating. So far the Volt seems to be holding up well. At 200,000 miles, Belmer said there has been no apparent loss in battery capacity. His maintenance primarily consists of oil changes every 38,000 miles, and tire rotations at 10,000 miles.

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