TonyWilliams wrote:Hey, Reg, did you even know there was a climate?
Duh, what's a climate?
Ad hominems are his specialty.
I thought the anti-vaxxer one was right out of left field... I give an eight for completely off topic ad hominems!!!
Maybe I should go through the thread and compile my "OrientExpress" dossier? Remeber that turd?
OrientExpress on LEAF battery degradation:
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 44#p221444
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The next time OrientExpress gives us the next LEAF revelation, just consider these previous revelations about the battery. The progression is very much like Andy... he's not getting any converts to his "mindset", and becomes more and more angry with each post. Perhaps read the last one from Orient Express below, and see the parallels with today's Andy.
1. "So far, all of the posts on this subject are speculation, hearsay, innuendo, and opinion."
2. "In reading through all the cases, I really don't see a problem"
3. "I have to believe that if there was an issue, it would have been detected and solved by now"
4. This is just a problem with "several vocal individuals."
5. There is so much confidence, he agreed to swap his battery!!! >>> "sure, come on by, and we will put the cars up on blocks and switch them out."
6. There are as many cars with reduced capacity as there are with ">>excess<< capacity and they are both edge cases".
I sure as heck haven't seen a mention of that >>excess<< case(s) !!!!
7. "If there is an actual issue with a customer's battery, then it will be a simple routine warranty repair."
8. This is just "battery FUD that is concentrated in some posts... Kuddos to Nissan for a job well done."
9. Hey, it's only "17 cars out of a population of 25000 is .00068.... or in layman's terms, an edge case."
10. "for the 0.00074074074074 of LEAF owners..... investigate the myriad of options other than complaining to get satisfaction for your transportation needs."
11. Still no problem; just charge more!!! "'the only complaint being that they have to be "filled-up" more often"
12. "Of the fewer than 10 posters that make up the the vast majority of the posts in the 148+ pages of this thread, I'm probably the most rationale one of the bunch."
13. It's a little battery problem because "in the larger scheme of things this is just a fart in the breeze."
14. "8 or so posters that have been the key proponents of this... with some interpretative data that they have been able to glean from some homebrew devices".
Hey, Phil, when will you have my homebrew device ready?
15. And then the insults got more pronounced... "Nothing smells right when you don't have a sense of smell".
And then there's: "
One of the sure signs of dementia is paranoia and being convinced that everything smells bad."
16. All of the previous statements are because "I have a deeper understanding of how failure analysis in the automotive industry works."
17. So, it might be a software problem... "What if this whole thing is just a SW bug that is not accurately reporting the capacity of the battery?"
A bit later, that was upgraded to, "reputable highly-placed sources suggest that a software bug"
. Naturally, no data to support this, or any other claim.
18. Some very specific and detailed data from most detailed person on the forum is just tossed aside with... "your methodology does not support your conclusions"
. This is from somebody that really hasn't provided ANY data.
19. Another "theory" with no data to support it (nor was any offered), "only those cars that have been driven in a severe and high-mileage mode trigger the condition."
20. The best for last, as this post is an all time classic!!!
"very vocal and seemingly hysterical schizophrenic ADD owners
... they don't represent the vast majority of LEAF owners.... for whatever reason are unable to deal
with the situation and would rather freak out
. Speculation is rampant, and facts are few
... fan the flames of discontent
in a very trollish manner
... for many that is not good enough and demand immediate satisfaction
... Other than assigning wet nurses
to the most vocal and impatient of those that are dissatisfied, it is hard to say what more than can be done."