Part of the challenge I've personally had as I tried to understand how to make my own life as close to carbon negative as possible was to find all the things that would be impaired if aliens took all the fossil remnants off this planet. I have yet to find anything - from the plastic keyboard I'm typing on, or the CAT-5 cable running to my router, or the broadband cable running through the neighborhood, to food, electricity, to even the plastic panels or polymer separators in my BEV's battery that would remain.dhanson865 wrote:Back when gas was $5.00 in my hometown and it didn't look like it would drop below $4 any time soon I would have back you up on that sentiment.AndyH wrote:I can't speak for or against the Club of Rome or their goals. It does appear that we're hovering near the upper part of an oil-fed population overshoot, though. It's too late to get out pain-free, but I think we can still choose what part of our anatomy we'll land on when we slide down the super-fossil-fuel-water-slide.
But since then not only has gas dropped in price we also have:
lots more solar power
Tesla (and other viable EVs)
I personally could do all my driving on solar power alone. I don't need gas to make it to work or to play or to get goods.
Now I know that UPS/FEDEX/USPS aren't as able to get off the hydrocarbons on a moments notice but I see a path forward and think the economy can adjust without failing completely.
I would like to see population decline at a mild rate instead of in some sort of calamity but I can't predict that one and won't try to control it.
I assure you - this isn't my thesis and it's coming from more than just one political view, faction, or background. This civilization we're surfing is a very fragile construct and I'm very, very surprised how thinly we've engineered our support structures and how much of the resilience we've lost in this country in just one generation.
Truly - watch the Crash Course from Martinson. Read any of Lester Brown's books. That'll give you a view from a scientist and former Wall St analyst, and an environmentalist and author. The same message comes from many different directions and many different viewpoints.
Broad brush: Peak oil (and the derivative peak fertilizer, peak herbicide, peak insecticide, which results in our current food bubble); peak iron/aluminum/copper (how many EVs do we need and where will we get all the batteries and motors?); the oceans are between 70 and 90% 'at capacity', overfished, or extinct depending on the source; peak clean water; and we're using more than 1.7 Earth's worth of ecosystem services (clean air, the rest of the raw materials, waste processing).