edatoakrun
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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:32 am

It's still Winter by the Calender, but Spring is in the air, and my range is back up over 100 miles, after the ~95 to ~97 mile results I got in my three previous range tests over this winter.

101.5 miles yesterday, on the same slow/mountain route where I got all of my 100-~113 mile test results I posted last year.

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Nothing new, really, to report about my LEAFs range.

I still see no significant loss of range since I began testing in the Summer of 2011, when the correct adjustments are made for variations in battery and ambient trip temperatures.

One interesting note, however, is that the 101.5 miles (odometer) divided by the 6.3 m/kwh (nav screen) should show up on CW as 16.1 kWh used between "100%" and ~VLBW.

This indicates an increase in battery capacity from last January's 15.7 kWh (my all-time low) CW report for the same battery capacity range. This ~2.5% increase in capacity is exactly what I would expect from a ~20 f warmer battery, and the range test results seem to bear out these results.

But it also indicates that the apparent "phantom" loss of capacity I saw over last summer, as shown in my CW kWh use, and nav screen and dash m/kWh reports, but that did not show up on my range test results, has not recurred this year...yet.
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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:50 am

Well, for what its worth, here are the details of my first 100+ miles on a charge experience:

Started interval with 93% on the SOC display.
Ended interval with 11% on the SOC display.
101.2 miles traveled.
6.5 miles/kWh displayed.

Distance was spread over five days of local driving, no freeways, most of it at 45-50 mph on main surface streets.

I'm not sure what to make of the above (it seems to imply an "indicated"(?)battery capacity of 19 kWh, but I'm pleased with it.
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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:54 am

When an EV does not have a battery TMS, it's all about location, location, location.
edatoakrun wrote:Nothing new, really, to report about my LEAFs range.
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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:43 pm

I managed to drive 100.5 miles today in my LEAF on a single charge. I made three trips all starting and ending at my house, and I did not hit turtle.
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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:41 am

VentusEU wrote:Well, for what its worth, here are the details of my first 100+ miles on a charge experience:
Congratulations! I believe yours is the first report of a 2013 LEAF traveling 100 miles on a single charge.
VentusEU wrote:I'm not sure what to make of the above (it seems to imply an "indicated"(?)battery capacity of 19 kWh, but I'm pleased with it.
Yes, many of us have the same issue of low apparent capacity based on the gauges. It's very difficult to know if it is real or not.

One question about this part:
VentusEU wrote:Started interval with 93% on the SOC display.
Is 93% what you see when your LEAF is fully charged? If so, then the 19 kWh you are calculating is not just the available battery capacity, but rather the total battery capacity, which seems very low, particularly for a brand new car. :shock:
Publius wrote:I managed to drive 100.5 miles today in my LEAF on a single charge. I made three trips all starting and ending at my house, and I did not hit turtle.
Congratulations!

I'm sure Tony will be along soon to make things official for both of you!
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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:42 am

RegGuheert wrote:One question about this part:
VentusEU wrote:Started interval with 93% on the SOC display.
Is 93% what you see when your LEAF is fully charged? If so, then the 19 kWh you are calculating is not just the available battery capacity, but rather the total battery capacity, which seems very low, particularly for a brand new car. :shock:
Based on this post, the new SOC meter shows available SOC, meaning your 19 kWh is available charge indicated, which is not atypical for a LEAF:
bradbissell wrote:12 bars = 100%
9 bars = 75%
6 bars = 50%

From this I would assume that 3 bars = 25% and 0 bars = 0%

Just curious if 0% SOC = VLB or Turtle...
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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:42 pm

VentusEU wrote:Well, for what its worth, here are the details of my first 100+ miles on a charge experience:

Started interval with 93% on the SOC display.
Ended interval with 11% on the SOC display.
101.2 miles traveled.
6.5 miles/kWh displayed.

Distance was spread over five days of local driving, no freeways, most of it at 45-50 mph on main surface streets.

I'm not sure what to make of the above (it seems to imply an "indicated"(?)battery capacity of 19 kWh, but I'm pleased with it.
I believe you didn't fully charge it. It goes to 98% fairly fast, then the last two percent takes a really long time plus it doesn't really add much at all. So now, I usually charge to just 98% if I need the extra range. The Gids, %, and kW h didn't change from 98% to 100%.
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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:09 pm

VentusEU wrote:Well, for what its worth, here are the details of my first 100+ miles on a charge experience:

Started interval with 93% on the SOC display.
Ended interval with 11% on the SOC display.
101.2 miles traveled.
6.5 miles/kWh displayed.
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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:12 pm

Publius wrote:I managed to drive 100.5 miles today in my LEAF on a single charge. I made three trips all starting and ending at my house, and I did not hit turtle.
Be it known that "Publius" did successfully discharge the duties of the 100 Mile Club per the bylaws and customs of said club, and shall hereunto be know simply as Mr. 46.

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Re: 100 Mile Club & 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefue

Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:47 am

It's amazing what driving 100 miles on a single charge and experiencing the low battery warning (and continuing driving) will do for range anxiety. I didn't think I would make it to 100 miles because one of my trips involved expressway speeds up to 65 mph and I accidentally ran the AC for a while. The guess-o-meter, which I've found more optimistic than realistic in most instances, consistently predicted throughout my whole journey that I would fall short of 100, but when I got down to five miles on the guess-o-meter it seemed to turn ultra conservative and I made it to 100 without a problem.
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