Boomer23
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Tony, did you try the "B" mode at any time? I'm interested in whether regen is stronger compared to earlier LEAFs. comparing the earlier cars' ECO mode to the new cars' B mode.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Boomer23 said:Tony, did you try the "B" mode at any time? I'm interested in whether regen is stronger compared to earlier LEAFs. comparing the earlier cars' ECO mode to the new cars' B mode.
Boomer23 said:Tony, did you try the "B" mode at any time? I'm interested in whether regen is stronger compared to earlier LEAFs. comparing the earlier cars' ECO mode to the new cars' B mode.
Thanks.
drees said:The GOM does seem pretty accurate compared to older cars. I assume it still increases the GOM by 10% when putting the car into ECO mode from D? I noted that the car said 77 miles at the beginning of the video - I presume that the 84 you saw was after putting it into ECO mode.
TonyWilliams said:drees said:The GOM does seem pretty accurate compared to older cars. I assume it still increases the GOM by 10% when putting the car into ECO mode from D? I noted that the car said 77 miles at the beginning of the video - I presume that the 84 you saw was after putting it into ECO mode.
"DaveinOlyWA" ...doesnt matter who is doing the test, there is very limited conclusions that can be made from a single run...
A few months after I got got my LEAF, with about 3,300 miles on the odometer, I decided to use a range test from a 100% charge to near the VLBW, to try to determine how driving variables effect energy use, and changes in range and/or battery capacity over time. After I realized that Carwings was updated and reporting consistently, I could further correlate range to actual kWh use, and battery capacity. When testing, I log speed, capacity bar disappearance (and appearance) , battery warnings, and (more recently) temperature. I would suggest any LEAF owner only interested in tracking battery capacity, just watch the total kWh use reports, to provide more precise information than provided by the dash displays...
"DaveinOlyWA" ...more data will come in, just be patient. this is a great start and does provide baseline info that is valuable...
bobsfreeleaf said:TonyWilliams said:drees said:The GOM does seem pretty accurate compared to older cars. I assume it still increases the GOM by 10% when putting the car into ECO mode from D? I noted that the car said 77 miles at the beginning of the video - I presume that the 84 you saw was after putting it into ECO mode.
Hi all: It took two overnight sessions to charge back to 100% on the trickle charge after the test. When I reviewed the GOM this morning at 100% charge I had 102 miles. I put it in gear (to see if it functioning properly and it dropped to 100 immediately). Since my highest noted number was in the high 80's before, is this a matter of the car liking Tony's driving style, or somethings else? I previously thought it was a function of the KWM indicator (which read 4.1-4.2 before and after the test). There must be more to this than I understand. Thx, Bob
edatoakrun said:Yes, assuming Tony's conflicting reports of his temperature bar observations are resolved, you would be able to compare other LEAFs to Bob's in future tests.
But I remain hopeful someone in San Diego with a 2011 or 2012 had the foresight to establish a "baseline" for those MYs already, as there may be no "new" 2011-12s left today, available for a range test.
TonyWilliams said:edatoakrun said:Yes, assuming Tony's conflicting reports of his temperature bar observations are resolved, you would be able to compare other LEAFs to Bob's in future tests.
But I remain hopeful someone in San Diego with a 2011 or 2012 had the foresight to establish a "baseline" for those MYs already, as there may be no "new" 2011-12s left today, available for a range test.
EdDA,
You continue to blow hot air about things that are clearly above your skill set and I don't know why. You seem to be vying for my attention, and I don't know why you need that validation. Unfortunately, you're the quintessential boil on my ass that needs to be popped. I thought you'd go away like the other blights we've had on here who faded into the sunset. Clearly, I was wrong, and I'm remiss in not taking proactive steps to fix that.
Like your numerous unsuccessful attempts to convince folks that your whacky thoughts are pertinent, unfortunately for you, this stuff that is clearly over your head. Why don't you keep consuming your favorite neighborhood pharmaceutical of the day and you leave the heavy lifting to folks who just aren't you.
You've earned your new title; EdDA.
bobsfreeleaf said:When I reviewed the GOM this morning at 100% charge I had 102 miles. I put it in gear (to see if it functioning properly and it dropped to 100 immediately). Since my highest noted number was in the high 80's before, is this a matter of the car liking Tony's driving style, or somethings else?
edatoakrun said:I suppose we may be able to conclude from the comment made by Tony below, that he may never have actually undertaken a range test with either one of his LEAFs that a San Diego area LEAFer with a 2013 can now use as a control in an accurate range comparison test.
Any one else San Diego able to help us here?
Even though I LOLed at the comment - let's try and keep it civil, folks and avoid making things personal. It's pretty clear Ed isn't going away and will continue to be persistent so in the case of constant disagreement, I suggest that all parties refrain themselves to keep things pleasant for everyone else.TonyWilliams said:You continue to blow hot air about things that are clearly above your skill set and I don't know why. You seem to be vying for my attention, and I don't know why you need that validation. Unfortunately, you're the quintessential boil on my ass that needs to be popped.
drees said:...Trying to find a basically new '12 LEAF to compare to is tough...
Any one else San Diego able to help us here?
How about LEAFers elsewhere, where 2013's will be available for testing soon.
Would you please consider doing comparison tests between the 2013 and one of the earlier LEAFs?
IMO, the more range tests completed, particularly in more varied and "real world" driving conditions than Tony attempted to test, the more we will know.
edatoakrun said:Your response implies that you, like Tony never completed such a range test.
DaveinOlyWA said:edatoakrun said:It just means that we will have to wait for a competent party to perform a better-designed test, to reach any useful conclusions.
bit over the top dont you think?
evnow said:...It is never going to get EPA approval.
bobsfreeleaf said:Thanks Tony. I know, it's all about the range chart. I should just tape your chart over the GOM. Better yet, use the app! But, it's hard to ignore technology when it tells you something you want to believe.
Right - that is my point. None of the "real world" range tests can be compared to the rigor of an EPA test - and should not be. That is not the point of real world range tests.TonyWilliams said:evnow said:...It is never going to get EPA approval.
There is absolutely nothing comparable between the EPA laboratory dynometer five cycle testing and my little steady state drive in the wild.
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