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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:59 am

range is the reason why i think battery improvements will see the standard range go from 100 to 150 miles because that will cover more than 2/3rds of the people not covered by the 100 mile range (if the 100 mile range was a real 100 miles we would not have the issue)

i have lived in places where it was common to need 100 miles most days (Seattle being 60 miles away means i am potentially in that situation now)

now, there will always be a luxury option, be it Tesla or Nissan's 300 mile pack upgrade but then we get to how to replenish the pack.

QC is not applicable to a pack that large. it would take 2+ hours to recharge. not viable in most circumstances. sure it will fit some of the time, but someone paying that much money might not go for that so quicker methods will be employed which means battery swapping (Checked Zenn and eestor this morning...still waiting)
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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:51 am

Banged out 102.8, with 6.0 miles/kWh overall. Arrived with 358.0 pack voltage, 16.3% Gid, therefore, I could have driven about another 20 miles !!!!

Ambient temp: low 50F's
Assumed batt: low 60F's

Usable battery capacity: 20kWh

Total miles for the day, about 220. Of course, no climate control at all.

The first 30 miles were driven on the backroads, and the next 70 miles were at exactly 45mph down the freeway:

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Then, I got me some of this:


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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:26 am

TonyWilliams wrote:Arrived with 358.0 pack voltage, 16.3% Gid, therefore, I could have driven about another 20 miles !!!!
Ambient temp: low 50F's
Assumed batt: low 60F's
Usable battery capacity: 20kWh
The first 30 miles were driven on the backroads, and the next 70 miles were at exactly 45mph down the freeway:
Since you were BELOW LBW (17.4%), I seriously doubt you could have gone another 20 miles, especially at 45mph or higher. At 17.4%, there is around 20 miles left before Turtle @ 38-40mph. You should know that from your own chart! :roll:
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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:35 am

LEAFfan wrote:Since you were BELOW LBW (17.4%), I seriously doubt you could have gone another 20 miles
I didn't actually look at the chart; it was a guess. I did say "about" 20 miles.

I haven't had a chart in my car in ages; every time I bump into a LEAF owner, I give them away.
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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:18 am

TonyWilliams wrote:Then, I got me some of this:


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Looks rather intriguing.

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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:54 am

Way to go, Tony. With "normal driving" accomplishments like yours, those of us in the "clubs" should be able to start convincing others that 100+ miles is not just possible as a gimmick under unreal circumstances.
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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:47 am

TonyWilliams wrote:Then, I got me some of this:


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Nice. Where'd you get to use a QC?
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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:56 am

N1ghtrider wrote:Way to go, Tony. With "normal driving" accomplishments like yours, those of us in the "clubs" should be able to start convincing others that 100+ miles is not just possible as a gimmick under unreal circumstances.
"...70 miles...at exactly 45mph down the freeway..." is "normal driving"?

On what planet?

That's about 30 MPH below "normal" speed, on the freeways I drive on.

Maybe I'm too self-conscious, but I worry about giving others the wrong impression about BEV capabilities, when I have to stretch a charge, by driving 50 on 55 MPH two lane highways, where the "normal" speed is in the low 60's.
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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:26 am

N1ghtrider wrote:Way to go, Tony. With "normal driving" accomplishments like yours, those of us in the "clubs" should be able to start convincing others that 100+ miles is not just possible as a gimmick under unreal circumstances.
I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. Did you note I drove 70 miles on a multi lane freeway at 45mph without a heater in 50F/10C degree weather?

100 miles is atypical, as evidenced by how few actually do it. Extraordinary driving techniques must be employed, and sacrifices made.

On the way back, I jumped up to 55mph, and that simple 10 mile per hour change made me not make the return without a fuel stop. I only did 100 miles unrefueled one way.

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Re: 100 Mile and 200 km Club, plus Longest Drive (unrefueled

Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:47 am

TNleaf wrote:
TonyWilliams wrote:Then, I got me some of this:


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Nice. Where'd you get to use a QC?
At the Andromeda Power factory in Anaheim.

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