solartim
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:55 am

solartim wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:32 pm
Ours is in, pretty quick turnaround, shipping was less then a week $6300 after tax and labor. After a full charge we are reading 97.5%
SOC 91.2% (why don't they match?)
GIDs 274
AHr 65.21
SOH 102.21
Hx 94.45%
Just over a year in a very strange year. Only drove for 4092 miles, charging to 80%. Numbers are quite disturbing. Reading 94.3% on the charge with SOC at 94.2
GIDS 251 (-17)
AHr 53.16 (-12.05)
SOH 88.42 (-13.79)
Hx 75.57 (-18.88)

If it keeps up at this rate we'll be looking at a warranty replacement.

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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:00 pm

solartim wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:55 am
If it keeps up at this rate we'll be looking at a warranty replacement.
3rd time a charm ?

By the way, your first reading was after a reset that came with the battery swap. The values were not indicative of battery status.
If the calibration after the reset has finished the current reading is real. You will never be able to say whether the ~ 10% capacity loss occurred over the last year or was present the day you took the car home.

What you can do is follow the trend once the calibration is complete.

I bought my car off-lease. There was rapid "degradation" the first 6 months and much more gradual after that. I presume my graph also represents a LEAF that underwent a battery reset followed by a period of recalibration
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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electricfuture
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Location: Davenport , FL

Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Tue May 04, 2021 2:58 pm

Received a quote today to replace the Lizard battery in my 2011 Leaf - $8,300 including installation. Dealership is in Orlando, FL They told me that the Nissan battery is $7,200 - dictated by Nissan the rest is their installation cost. It shocked me as the same dealership quoted $6K for the replacement 2 years ago.

My 2011 Leaf was upgraded to a Lizard battery at 47K mile under warranty. I upgraded the interior to leather right after I purchased it. Vehicle has 101,340 miles on it and still shows 10 bars (after it runs a short distance). However, my range has dropped to under 70 miles dependent on speed and often drops suddenly on the guess-o-meter. Nothing has gone wrong with the car, which still runs and looks like new, so I have to consider that getting a new battery might result in another 100,000 miles with only minor - if any repairs. Brakes are still good for at least another 40K miles.

The dealership offered $2,000 in trade right after telling me that there is a high demand for used cars! I think I'll have to keep it running at least another year or 2 before selling it or possibly getting a replacement pack deal that would allow me to keep the old pack for solar panel energy storage. Even at 6 bars it is more than enough to run all household appliances and A/C.

MilesTP
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Mon May 24, 2021 7:20 pm

Question,
Can I have a CW battery installed in a non-CW leaf?
Reason im asking is i found a dealer that has the CW battery 2k cheaper than what I assume to be the non-CW 295B0-9RB8E. (295B0-9RB9E seems to have been discontinued)

This is for a 2011 Leaf SL w/o CW btw

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Stanton
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Tue May 25, 2021 6:45 am

MilesTP wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 7:20 pm
Question,
Can I have a CW battery installed in a non-CW leaf?
Question: what does "CW" stand for?
2011 Blue Ocean SV
12v LiFePO4 battery w/Antigravity Battery Tracker
FIAMM 74100 horns/Wet Okole seat covers/Tor's low-power heater mod/Dala's CAN-bridge
Lizard Pack (Rev E) installed @51 months/41k miles
40 kWh Pack (Gen2) installed @115 months/85k miles

SageBrush
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Tue May 25, 2021 7:06 am

Stanton wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 6:45 am
MilesTP wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 7:20 pm
Question,
Can I have a CW battery installed in a non-CW leaf?
Question: what does "CW" stand for?
https://iggyz.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... MG5405.JPG

It's a package designation that includes the CHAdeMO option.

@MilesTP: the CW package has no bearing on the battery.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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91040
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Tue May 25, 2021 9:08 am

Isn’t CW the designation for the cold weather package?
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.6Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.4Ah, end 36.1Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.1Ah
1st- 160.5k mi 34mo 54Ah
2nd- 184.4k mi 53mo 49Ah

MilesTP
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Tue May 25, 2021 10:07 am

SageBrush wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 7:06 am
Stanton wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 6:45 am
MilesTP wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 7:20 pm
Question,
Can I have a CW battery installed in a non-CW leaf?
Question: what does "CW" stand for?
https://iggyz.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... MG5405.JPG

It's a package designation that includes the CHAdeMO option.

@MilesTP: the CW package has no bearing on the battery.

Hey thanks - I see that window sticker did include a battery heater so I just was just worried that 295B0-9RB9D included a battery heater on the battery. (hence also why i thought CW meant cold weather)

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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Tue May 25, 2021 12:57 pm

MilesTP wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 10:07 am
SageBrush wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 7:06 am
Stanton wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 6:45 am

Question: what does "CW" stand for?
https://iggyz.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... MG5405.JPG

It's a package designation that includes the CHAdeMO option.

@MilesTP: the CW package has no bearing on the battery.

Hey thanks - I see that window sticker did include a battery heater so I just was just worried that 295B0-9RB9D included a battery heater on the battery. (hence also why i thought CW meant cold weather)
I'd also never heard the "CW" designation until this thread. I most definitely had heard of the cold weather package (e.g. via https://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/10/201 ... age-now-s/). AFAIK, most '11 US Leafs didn't have the cold weather package.

Page 19 of https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/ ... 3-0001.pdf has
"HIGH VOLTAGE BATTERY PACK
2011 With Cold Weather Package
2012 All" with part number:
"295B0-9RB9D*
(replaces 295B0-3NF9D)"

and further down:
"* Cold Weather Package vehicles can be identified by having heated steering wheel, heated front and rear seats, heated outside mirrors and rear HVAC duct. "

'19 Bolt Premier
'13 Leaf SV w/premium (former)
'13 Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium (lease over)

Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Tue May 25, 2021 3:18 pm

91040 wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 9:08 am
Isn’t CW the designation for the cold weather package?
That would fit.
A Google search said CW is for CHAdeMO but you may well be right.

@Dala would know if batteries with the extra electrical connection can only be fitted on cars with that option.
My confidence that OP can use that battery is now uncertain.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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