DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:35 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:28 pm
Well, both Bolt and Leaf Plus can be had for 25K and less today.

Teslas battery day innovations were pretty interesting and exciting. It still amazes me how awkward Elon is in front of the camera after all these years. He is still truly an engineer at heart. I hope the other battery manufacturers are as forthcoming about their equivalent innovations. I even thought Nissan's one the other day on carbon fiber molding was pretty cool. (Though flabbergasted that the new Z is not electric).

I find the Y ugly as hell, M3 is way better looking. In line with Leftir, as I get a few more grey hairs, I do appreciate the higher seating of the Leaf. Its about as sporty as I can handle safely.

Very excited to hear reports that the EA chargers are being unthrottled. I will test our local one in a couple days once my soc gets low enough for a good test.

Any rumors on the 21 Leaf? I am guessing only small changes again, but curious if the rumor mill has heard anything. A few more Australians have imported a Leaf Plus from Japan and making youtube videos about it (though its coming there officially next year). Eastern Europe also seems to be getting Leaf Plus as reviews in just about every eastern European language have popped up over last 6 months. Hopefully South America gets them soon too.
+1 my LEAF was a smidge under $26K but it involved early termination of my 40 kwh LEAF 15...no 16 months early (my last auto payment to NMAC was returned) and guessing I wasn't above water on the lease.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 13,705 mi, 93.41% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:40 pm

Here is a local 2019 SV new for under 28k before federal credit. (Unless the dealer discount somehow includes it)

https://www.autobarnnissan.com/inventor ... 1kc321209/
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:54 pm

If the dealer from whom I leased my Leaf will give my housemate the minimum "Fair condition" trade allowance of $9k for her PIP, then I think she may lease a 2019 SV+ with AW & Tech packages. One of her options is slightly over $100 a month. The other is twice that, but with a $4k check with which she can make 2/3 of all the lease payments. If she passes that up I'm going to evict her. ;)
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:31 pm

Many German reviews in the Leaf Plus popping up this week, so I wonder if with the ev rebate there has Nissan trying to push for a little market share.

https://youtu.be/C0IwHYTofNE
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:56 pm

Ok, my S+ is 3 months past purchase (one year almost exactly since build). I need to let it go another couple days, but it looks like my SOH somehow....went up. Admittedly few miles as we are only driving local the last couple weeks... so will update in a couple days. Kind of bizarre.

8/29/2020
SoH = 98.05
1826 miles

9/4/2020
SoH = 98.01
AHr=172.89
Hx=105.37
1,876

9/7/2020
SoH= 97.99%
2,084 miles

9/16/2020
SOH= 97.94
AHR=172.77
HX=106.11
MILES=2,212

9/24/2020
Soh=98.11
Ahr=173.07
Hx=105.98
Temp 74F
2288 miles

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I-2ZNo ... p=drivesdk
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:09 pm

I wanted to update that the SOH stayed the same today, so it looks like the adjustment is complete.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:39 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:09 pm
I wanted to update that the SOH stayed the same today, so it looks like the adjustment is complete.
3rd one to get an "up" update early in the game... My next update in Oct will be my LEAF's first BD... I guess I can dream
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 13,705 mi, 93.41% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:02 pm

This showing the 2019 Leaf as doing quite well in terms of degradation (with Audi and Tesla). Bolt isn't mentioned as its not available in the UK.

Leafs in the UK historically have done very well, given the very mild climate.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/car ... grade.html
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:52 pm

Another positive review of the Plus

https://youtu.be/XvZznCWVFjk
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DougWantsALeaf
Posts: 2080
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 8:21 pm
Delivery Date: 18 May 2013
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Location: Chicago North Side

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:35 pm

Range comparison between Leaf Plus and M3 Midrange on some mild roads. Midrange does a bit better, but not by very much. I don't speak Hungarian. Its a good comparison as both have similar battery sizes.

https://youtu.be/zjEin1Mgnv8
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

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