tziegler
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Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:40 pm
Delivery Date: 25 Oct 2017
Leaf Number: 311653
Location: Florida

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:04 pm

Today I traded in my 2015 S for a 2019 SV+. I used the paid Android version of Leaf Spy (not Pro and not Lite) on the 2015 car and it showed consistent degradation. I was down to 81 SOH@30,000 miles. When I plugged the ODBii plug into the new car, Leaf Spy was showing S0H=0%, AHR=763.57, SOC=184%. Yikes. I installed the same app on a different phone with the same results. I uninstalled the app and installed the Lite version. It appears to be working OK except the ODO reading is 20 miles light. Here are the results:

ODO = 32 miles (actual reading in the car is 52)
AHR = 174.58
SOH = 98.97 (Seems low for a new car)
QC = 3
L1/L2 = 1
Temp was 66.4

It looks like the dealer just plugged in the quick charger when a customer came in for a test drive. I don't know how long the car was on the lot in northern Florida weather. I don't plan on doing any QCs any time soon. SOC=81.8% and the GOM shows 210 miles of range, for what that's worth.

There are lots of nice features on the SV+. Built in NAV, Bluetooth Audio, Automatic Cruise Control, and E Pedal (which I haven't gotten used to yet.) Android Auto doesn't do Google Play music very well. (I have tons of old LPs and CDs that I downloaded on my phone but with Android Auto, you can't specify downloaded only.) Bluetooth audio worked fine on the drive home from the dealer.

There is still a lot to learn on this car and I like it alot. I'm going to monitor things with Leaf Spy Lite for the next few weeks.
2015 S - purchased 11/2017. sold 1/2020
2019 SV Plus - purchased 1/2020

goldbrick
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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:33 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Aug 2017
Leaf Number: 311806
Location: Boulder, CO

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:53 pm

Congrats. Hope the Plus works well for you. The odometer could be a miles/kilometers mismatch between LeafSpy and the carr. If the ratio stays around 0.6 then that is almost surely the reason.

SOH < 100% isn't unusual for a car off the lot. And don't be surprised if it drops fairly quickly to the low-mid 90's and then stabilizes as that seems to be a common pattern with the Plus cars even as the Hx will probably rise about 100% for a while. So take it all with a grain of salt and enjoy the ride.

DougWantsALeaf
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Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 8:21 pm
Delivery Date: 18 May 2013
Leaf Number: 407811
Location: Chicago North Side

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:21 pm

Enjoy the car

My car also arrived at around 98.7 SOH.

It moved down about .01 a day from June to October-November then slowed dramatically.

December 7th I was at 97.25 and January 21st it was still at 97.20. Now the weather did go go colder in early Jan. December here was very mild and in the 50s many days. The car is garaged. We will have to see as the weather warms.

As I caught the tail end of NCTC, I fast charge every 2nd or third charge as it’s free and level 2 at home the remainder. We have about 6500 miles on the car. While I charge to 100% frequently after getting the car, I try to cap it at about 90% now give or take a few %.

How are others doing on their Plus? Guessing 2021 batteries will fare even better.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DaveinOlyWA
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Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:43 pm
Delivery Date: 16 Nov 2019
Leaf Number: 319862
Location: Olympia, WA
Contact: Website

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:22 pm

Mine moved VERY slowly down until it hit 3,000 miles and then it dropped 1½% or so. I venture to guess its the same 90 day adjustment the 40 kwh packs had. I will know at the end of April.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 13,705 mi, 93.41% SOH
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GerryAZ
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Delivery Date: 12 Jun 2011
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:23 pm

I will post more detailed results after my 6-month discharge test, but here are the LEAF Spy numbers as of tonight: AHr=173.12 SOH=98.14% Hx=113.81% ODO=10,583 QC=3 L1/L2=82. I saw a slight increase in AHr and SOH at about 2-1/2 months and another small increase at about 5-1/2 months with gradual decreases from new and after each jump. I suspect the increases were at about 90 days and 180 days after the car was activated in the factory.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015; traded 8/10/2019 at 82,436 miles
White LEAF 2019 SL Plus purchased 8/10/2019

salyavin
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Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Delivery Date: 30 Dec 2019
Leaf Number: 318726
Location: Littleton , CO

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:28 pm

Thank you Gary. I'll be especially interested after you go through the next couple summers in AZ, I am hoping for good things.

umdkevin
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Joined: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:47 am
Delivery Date: 15 Apr 2019

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:53 pm

ODO - 8164
SOH - 95.56%
LEAF 2018 SV Gun Metallic (traded at odo 7350)
LEAF 2019 SL Plus Gun Metallic
5/4/19 - odo 570, SOH 99.22, AHr 175.02, Hx 103.17
5/4/20 - odo 11,242, SOH 93.13, AHr 164.281, Hx 115.21

DaveinOlyWA
Posts: 15050
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:43 pm
Delivery Date: 16 Nov 2019
Leaf Number: 319862
Location: Olympia, WA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:23 am

GerryAZ wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:23 pm
I will post more detailed results after my 6-month discharge test, but here are the LEAF Spy numbers as of tonight: AHr=173.12 SOH=98.14% Hx=113.81% ODO=10,583 QC=3 L1/L2=82. I saw a slight increase in AHr and SOH at about 2-1/2 months and another small increase at about 5-1/2 months with gradual decreases from new and after each jump. I suspect the increases were at about 90 days and 180 days after the car was activated in the factory.
Increases? Interesting. It seems like everyone's numbers are converging to the same general level. I just had my first drop from the mid 99's to the low 98's where most of us seem to be right now.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 13,705 mi, 93.41% SOH
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Astros
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Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:21 am
Delivery Date: 28 Apr 2018
Leaf Number: 310136
Location: Seattle, WA

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:30 am

I’ve had my SL Plus for 10 months now, and am at 12,600 miles with 95.8% SOH according to LeafSpy. Just like my previous 40kWh Leaf, the degradation slowed to about 1/3 the initial rate at about 6500 miles. Or you could round that to 10,000km since the Nissan engineers program everything in metric. I get the large adjustments every 90 days, which so far have all been drops. I’m expecting the next one in a week or two.
2019 Deep Blue SL Plus

DougWantsALeaf
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Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 8:21 pm
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Leaf Number: 407811
Location: Chicago North Side

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:18 am

Gerry, I am jealous that you are still at 98% in AZ after 10K miles!

Hoping my 97 holds into summer. I did abuse the batter in the first 2 months with some super hot high SOH driving, so now that I have curbed my abuses, hoping the leveling holds into summer.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

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