DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:27 am

keep tires at 44psi. That's key, especially in low and medium speed driving. The car rolls really well.

On the highway, stay with a pack of cars or trucks (not tailgating, 3 bars of distance). It gives you a few extra tenths of a mile per kWh.
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:55 pm

Since I'm using it as an in town car, obsessing over tire pressure to get a few more miles just is not worth the effort. We get temperature swings here in excess of 50 degrees in a day night cycle, so the tires are never going to have one desired pressure anyway. As my rare freeway trip matched the route planner then I must be fairly average driver anyway.

My prediction is the tires will outlast how long I keep the car. At my current usage I'll hit about 5500 miles a year.

That said I bumped them up to about 40. But I'm not going to obsess over it. I'm more interested in simply having a personal baseline so I can see if I notice battery degradation on those rare trips.
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:43 pm

webeleafowners wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:06 pm
LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:36 pm
All of the all season tires are labeled "M&S" - it's a bad joke. Tires don't vary by region AFAIK, but OEM tires on cars are often of lower quality than the same brand and model tire sold as aftermarket. The Ecopias on older Leafs and the Continentals on older Toyotas (and newer ones, for all I know) are prime examples of down-rated OEM tires.
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:22 pm

GerryAZ wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:43 pm
webeleafowners wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:06 pm
LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:36 pm
All of the all season tires are labeled "M&S" - it's a bad joke. Tires don't vary by region AFAIK, but OEM tires on cars are often of lower quality than the same brand and model tire sold as aftermarket. The Ecopias on older Leafs and the Continentals on older Toyotas (and newer ones, for all I know) are prime examples of down-rated OEM tires.
Hey Leftie. What do the new Epluses come with?
My 2019 SL+ came with the same 215/50 R17 Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires as my 2015 SL. I consider the ones that came on the 2015 to be the worst radial tires I have owned, but the 2019 versions seem to have a bit better traction (wet and dry) and may last a little longer.
What do you not like about them. And what pressure do you run them at.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:29 am

I personally like the Michelin Energy Savers. It’s great that they are rated up to 44psi. I believe the Model 3 SR+ uses the same tire type.
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:20 am

Other than the usual minor year to year changes, Nissan hasn't changed tire options since the S trim was introduced in 2013
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:19 am

Never been a fan of Michelin tires and find the stock tires ride rough and are a little noisy.
Also, yes they're M&S rated but haven't met the testing requirements of a snow flake
endorsed tire. I'll be swapping out the Michelins on our 2019 SL this coming summer
to tires that are snow flake rated, Y speed rated with a max. inflation pressure of 50 p.s.i..
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:39 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:20 am
Other than the usual minor year to year changes, Nissan hasn't changed tire options since the S trim was introduced in 2013

The 2013 Leafs came with down-rated Ecopia tires. Somewhere around 2015 they switched to the Energy Saver tires discussed above. I'd say that this represented a "change"...
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:06 pm

My 2017 S came with the crappy down-rated Ecopia tires.

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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:02 pm

goldbrick wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:06 pm
My 2017 S came with the crappy down-rated Ecopia tires.

AKA "Ecrapia" tires. I replaced mine after a year and sold them. The very inexpensive Goodyear Eagle LS tires that replaced them felt like performance tires in comparison.
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