jdcbomb
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:33 am

It appears so far after the earliest 18 MY were put in service that we have not seen any reports of even a single bar being lost?
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:31 am

jdcbomb wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:33 am
It appears so far after the earliest 18 MY were put in service that we have not seen any reports of even a single bar being lost?
Awhile back someone asked this same question and the consensus is that nobody here has lost a bar.
Somebody mentioned a Facebook post showing a bar loss but I never saw it.
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:39 am

I have not seen a single report of degradation loss so far on any 18-19 LEAF world-wide. The new chemistry battery has almost 4 years of real world usage which includes 2 years of testing in Arizona prior to its release.
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:54 am

OrientExpress wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:39 am
I have not seen a single report of degradation loss so far on any 18-19 LEAF world-wide. The new chemistry battery has almost 4 years of real world usage which includes 2 years of testing in Arizona prior to its release.
I assume you mean "bar loss" because obviously we are all suffering some amount of "degradation loss".
Mine has 9% plus or minus. Just because the first bar has not vanished doesn't mean you don't have some loss.
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:15 am

Oh sure, all batteries have loss over time, but what I think we are seeing is that the new designs loss profile is on par with other BEV manufacturer's batteries.

My 2018 is a year and a half old, and it still has the same range profile as when new. We quick charge exclusively these days, and the range is still between 145-175 depending on the time of year.
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:42 am

I'm not complaining, I knew I stood a good chance of higher degradation because of where i live. I got such a good deal on it I can live with it. But I am still hoping it will not loose the first bar before I go to trade it in in about two years, most likely for a 2021 niro ev or a VW Id4... or who knows!
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:16 pm

2021 will have many more choices, and hopefully the next push up in range.
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:40 pm

For the Consumer Electronics Show in January, Nissan is going to have the Aria on display along with some other interesting BEV applications. This is the start of the Ramp for the BESUV coming in the fall. That one will be the introduction of the new platform and powertrain.

https://global.nissannews.com/en/releases/191219-01-e
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:48 pm

The ariya looks nice but based on the rescent news, way over my budget.

The id4 could be a crossover with 300 miles of range for ... 40k? Less? TBD
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Re: The 40KWH Battery Topic

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:19 am

danrjones wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:31 am
jdcbomb wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:33 am
It appears so far after the earliest 18 MY were put in service that we have not seen any reports of even a single bar being lost?
Awhile back someone asked this same question and the consensus is that nobody here has lost a bar.
Somebody mentioned a Facebook post showing a bar loss but I never saw it.
I am on FB and have never seen any real post claiming a bar loss.
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