WetEV wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:50 amGreat news. Seriously.GRA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:28 pmhttps://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... han-mach-eToyota RAV4 Prime plug-in hybrid is still flying off dealer lots—faster than Mach-E
. . .The RAV4 Prime was the quickest-selling new car in March, second only to the Chevrolet Corvette, according to iSeeCars analysis. It took an average 10.2 days to sell a RAV4 Prime last month, while transaction prices averaged $44,201 (compared to a $39,220 base price), according to the analysis. . . .
With the battery-supply issues that previously limited production sorted, Toyota said that from calendar year 2021 on, it's planning on 20,000 units annually for the United States, up from the 5,000 units allocated during 2020. But Toyota could perhaps sell even more. . . .
Now the question becomes, could Toyota sell many more RAV4 Primes than it's allocating for the U.S.? Based on what we see here, we think so.
So what fraction of miles will be all electric?
Assuming no change in incentives, presumably 53% in the U.S. I'd love to see a demographic breakdown of % EV vs. age etc.
WetEV wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:53 amFor what, exactly?GRA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:28 pmSee above.WetEV wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:34 am
Audi Q4 e-tron has a similar price, far better driving in electric mode, a nicer interior, none of that tinny engine sound and no weekly stop at the gas station.
From my point of view, why would I pick the RAV4? Oh, we know your point of view, but both you and I are not everyone.
So would PHEVs do better? As only 37% of miles are electric, less in Europe with high gas taxes, would that really work better?
Sure, short term a more PHEVs with 37% EMs might be better than fewer BEVs (due to battery shortages), but long term that doesn't work.
Doesn't have to. As batteries get better and cheaper, BEVs will make more sense for more people. Then there's the other possible solution, PHFCEVs.
Because, of the 56% of U S. households that can charge at home, the lowest common denominator type of at-home charging, usually the only type available without electrical work, is L1. Although inconvenient, even I could charge at L1 for the price of an extension cord, at least outside of the heating months. Same goes for workplace charging, although you'd want more L2 there. A small-battery PHEV with access to only L1 imposes no significant restraints on the owner. The same can't be said for small-battery BEVs, as I learned (actually knew it beforehand, but there's nothing like a practical demonstration) 2 decades ago during the week I spent driving a Think Citi.
None of this implies that we won't need a massive building program for home/workplace charging at existing apartments etc. plus public L2s/QCs and/or H2 stations, it just eases the burden.
WetEV wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:53 am
They've been at the higher end for a decade, and remain too expensive for most people. PHEVs with small battery packs will be several thousand dollars less expensive than BEVs until battery packs are no longer the most expensive component in the car, while providing a greater environmental benefit in practice.