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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:28 pm

No. Your earlier post said you have an L6-30P (male plug). You need an adapter that has an L6-30R (female receiver) that changes to whichever male plug fits your outlet. As previously said, probably either a 10-30P or a 14-30P. The plug/receiver numbers must match.
EVSEs use 3 wires, two hots and a ground. The adapter will either tie the neutral and ground together or the neutral will not be connected. I don’t know which the code requires.

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Like this?

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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:04 pm

Good catch, 91040. This would be a lot easier if I could upload photos. I may have to upgrade my membership!

It’s kind of moot now since we’ve pretty much decided to get an electrical contractor out here and run a dedicated 50A line to the garage.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:07 pm

You can link photos that you've uploaded to a image hosting site (or for that matter almost any photos on any webpages) by highlighting the url for the image in your post/edit window, and selecting "Img" from the editing options. The image will then appear here.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:18 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:07 pm
You can link photos that you've uploaded to a image hosting site...
True, but the support I’m getting here makes it worth buying in. Also, those photo hosting sites seem to disappear an awful lot, so I don’t trust them. We will have this car and its successors for many years. I have no doubt we will have many questions (and maybe even some useful answers) as time goes by.

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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:35 pm

goldbrick wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:08 pm
Wavebender wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
But is it worth it? Will we get more efficient charging as a result?
The efficiency will be very slightly better
I suppose 'slightly' is in the eyes of the beholder. It is about 10% more efficient
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:41 pm

I have a 2013 Nissan branded EVSE that was upgraded in the aftermarket to also support 240v. I think it also has the same plug as you report, so perhaps you have the same ?

It doesn't really matter though since you know the specs.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:12 am

SageBrush wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:41 pm
I have a 2013 Nissan branded EVSE that was upgraded in the aftermarket to also support 240v. I think it also has the same plug as you report, so perhaps you have the same ?

It doesn't really matter though since you know the specs.
Does yours have a white sticker on it with the text I reported? It’s definitely a different Nissan part number. The sticker is on the left side of the stock spec box.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:37 am

Edit: I just upgraded to Goldmember!
The change will likely take a few days. I'm not involved with that, and the guy who is has multiple sites to mind.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:20 am

Wavebender wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:12 am
SageBrush wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:41 pm
I have a 2013 Nissan branded EVSE that was upgraded in the aftermarket to also support 240v. I think it also has the same plug as you report, so perhaps you have the same ?

It doesn't really matter though since you know the specs.
Does yours have a white sticker on it with the text I reported? It’s definitely a different Nissan part number. The sticker is on the left side of the stock spec box.
Here is a link to photos I took of my upgraded EVSE. The upgraded spec changes a little depending on the exact Nissan model #
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5PudkP1UiN5NTmMr7

My EVSE was upgraded by a company no longer in business called evseupgrade.com. Their old webpages can be accessed via the wayback machine at https://web.archive.org/web/20180815150 ... ducts_id=2
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:37 am

Wavebender wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:12 am
SageBrush wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:41 pm
I have a 2013 Nissan branded EVSE that was upgraded in the aftermarket to also support 240v. I think it also has the same plug as you report, so perhaps you have the same ?

It doesn't really matter though since you know the specs.
Does yours have a white sticker on it with the text I reported? It’s definitely a different Nissan part number. The sticker is on the left side of the stock spec box.
Yes, it sounds like you have an EVSEupgrade, upgraded EVSE that was done by an original MNL member(iEngineer). You'd send in your 120v OEM Leaf EVSE, his company would upgrade it to L2(240v) and promptly ship it back, I believe I paid around $300 and mine still works well to this day. He had various upgrades over the years, the first ones maxed out at 24a, some 20a(like mine and I believe yours) and the last ones maxed out at 16a due to Nissan cheaping out on the J1772 cable making it only 14 gauge instead of 12 gauge.
You can certainly add a 14-50 RV/Range plug/circuit to your garage and I wouldn't argue against doing it, it would future-proof you to the maximum charge any current car really draws. You'd still need an adapter cord to convert from your L14-30 to 14-50 but they are pretty cheap and easy to find on Amazon, I have several as I also have a 14-50 outlet in my garage. Note you still won't get getting the maximum charge rate your Leaf can draw(27.5a) as it sounds like your EVSE maxes out at 20a, still a vast improvement over the puny 12a @ 120v that a standard EVSE provides.
If you did install a 14-50 plug in your garage you could purchase any number of 30a L2 EVSEs, starting around $400 on Amazon. If on the other hand you wanted to go the least expensive route just purchasing a ~$50 adapter to go from your dryer plug to new EVSE and only use either your dryer or EVSE at the same time, you'd probably save a $1000 or more, it's your choice. Note depending on your tax situation you may be able to deduct part of the cost of any new EVSE and labor/materials required to install a new EVSE, I was able to take advantage of this a few years back and it helped me save several hundred dollars off my taxes.
32a portable EVSE-https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Motor-Tech ... s9dHJ1ZQ==
32a wall mount EVSE-https://www.amazon.com/Blink-Electric-V ... 288&sr=1-5
I just linked a few EVSEs off Amazon, they sell hundreds of different models/brands. Some wall mount ones are hard-wired some have a plug, personally I'd suggest a plug-in model with the very common 14-50 end as if you start having issues with the EVSE it would be easy to plug in another like the one you have for testing purposes. Note I have no personal experience with either of the EVSEs I've linked, I believe the Blink you hardwire but they may make ones with a plug, which again I'd probably suggest but both look pretty decent, I'd suggest reading reviews.
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