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A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:13 pm

Newbie Dave again, trying to get my wifey’s “new” 2016 set up.

The car came with the standard cable, model number 29690 3NF2E with regular 120v input.

On EBay I bought her what I thought was the same model (from a fellow in GeorgiaJ to keep in her trunk to use at her workplace, a residence with an outdoor 120v outlet next to where she parks. What I received, though, was model number 29290 3NF0E with a larger input plug that looks like the one a dryer might use, plus a short adapter cable to standard 120v. There is what looks like a factory sticker that says:

Input Voltage (Unit Automatically Adjusts)
100-140V - 16A (typically 12A / 1.44kW)
200-250V - 24A (typically 20A / 4.80kW)
AC only 50/60HZ - Use on dedicated circuit
Warranty void if unit tampered with or abused

So my question is, can I plug this “new” charger into my dryer circuit and get faster charging? Is this “Level 2” charging? Or is this charger an international model for use outside the USA?
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:39 pm

What you are calling a 'charger' is an EVSE.

Sounds like you bought a newer generation EVSE that supports both 120 and 240 volts. NICE
Is this Nissan branded ?

If memory serves, these newer Nissan branded EVSE end in a 14-50 plug so you would need an adapter to mate your dryer receptacle to your 14-50 plug. The newer dryer receptacles are 14-30 and the older ones are 10-30. A 10-30 receptacle requires an 'EV compatible' adapter.

If you want to continue using the receptacle for other duties besides EV charging (e.g., to power a dryer) then check out the dryer buddy at
https://www.bsaelectronics.com/collecti ... -plus-auto

The designations are NEMA.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:05 pm

Yep, it’s a branded Nissan part. I can’t upload photos so here’s the text on the big plug:

NEMA L630P
Yung Li YP-52

That Dryer Buddy is an interesting solution, pricey though.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:16 pm

Just unplugged the dryer and the plug says X46EA and is a big square four pronged style while our ESVE is a rounded three prong, so we definitely cannot simply plug in our ESVE. Our house was built in 2000. Looks like a Dryer Buddy and an electrician are in our near future.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:10 pm

200-250V - 24A (typically 20A / 4.80kW)
That's unusual! In US spec leafs, the dual voltage EVSE that comes with the Tech package draws the full ~28 amps a Leaf can use, and is thus unsuitable for 30A dryer circuits. You seem to have gotten lucky and gotten a Euro spec version that draws a safer 24 amps.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm

Cool! So does that imply that all I need is a simple plug adapter to mate this EVSE to my dryer outlet? I would really rather not spend $400 for a Dryer Buddy. We are a very small family and use our dryer maybe once a week. A post-it on the dryer that says UNPLUG CAR BEFORE DRYING! would be perfectly adequate. I assume if someone forgot to unplug the car while it’s charging it would just flip the circuit breaker. Our laundry room shares a wall with the garage where wifey parks, so running a second outlet should be a simple job for an electrician. The dryer outlet and the garage wall are about four feet apart.

But is it worth it? Will we get more efficient charging as a result?
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:57 pm

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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:05 pm

If that is what correctly matches the EVSE plug to the dryer outlet, yes. Just make sure that you do, indeed, have a 30 amp 240 volt dryer circuit.
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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:08 pm

Wavebender wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:42 pm
But is it worth it? Will we get more efficient charging as a result?
The efficiency will be very slightly better since it will be faster but otherwise the main improvement will be the car will charge faster. Only you can say whether that is worth it. And yes, this would be L2 charging since that usually implies a 240V supply.

If you get an electrician to add an outlet in the garage, I doubt any reputable one would put it on the same circuit as the dryer. It might be possible to install an appropriate switch that energizes one outlet or the other but I'm not sure what the code requirements for that type of setup would be.

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Re: A tale of two chargers

Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:16 pm

We’re thinking we’ll have an electrician install a 50A circuit. Might as well future-proof it. Who knows what our next EV will require?
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