powersurge
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Re: Real range of Leaf SL

Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:33 pm

Dude, you are in puerto rico.... That has the worst electric grid.

Forget about an electric car.... Wait another 10 years until things catch up.

Even in the U.S., electric cars are a rarity. You do not want an EV in PR...

Rafaelcp09
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Re: Real range of Leaf SL

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:33 pm

Powersurge

Yep!!! Grid is a real piece of crap, still since hurricane Maria.
Look for my first original post, you will know why I am thinking specifically in a Leaf with a Wallbox Quasar bidirectional charger.

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Re: Real range of Leaf SL

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:39 pm

Another thing!!!

On Leaf 24kwh and 30kwh you can see battery SOH by bars aside the bars of SAC. How you can see SOH in 40kwh/62kwh ? Or is guessing how much miles is giving on 100% charge time by time (year by year)?

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Re: Real range of Leaf SL

Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:03 pm

Rafaelcp09 wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:01 pm
Concern is in a weekend trip arriving on 90% with 180-195 miles and having 10% 15-25 miles and having to wait three hours in a 7.2k (28-30 miles/hour) charger to have enough juice for the way back.
If you are regularly driving 180+ miles, I'd not suggest a LEAF, not even a 62kW LEAF. Consider the following:

You really don't want to frequently go much below 20%. To avoid worry, and to avoid cycle wear on the battery. 226 EPA miles times 80% of the battery is 180 miles.

The battery will lose capacity with time. At warranty replacement, you might have something like a 150 mile range. Leave a 20% margin, as you really don't want to frequently go much below 20%, for two reasons. To avoid worry, and to reduce cycle wear on the battery. That leaves you with 120 EPA miles of range. Yes, in mild to hot conditions you can probably beat the EPA range... But not that much.
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Re: Real range of Leaf SL

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:11 pm

Rafaelcp09 wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:39 pm
Another thing!!!

On Leaf 24kwh and 30kwh you can see battery SOH by bars aside the bars of SAC. How you can see SOH in 40kwh/62kwh ? Or is guessing how much miles is giving on 100% charge time by time (year by year)?
There is a cell phone-like bar-in-a-cylinder horizontal capacity gauge on one of the screens. It doesn't appear to be segmented into bars, because the segments aren't bordered by lines, but it is - 12 bars like the Gen I Leaf.
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Flyct
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Re: Real range of Leaf SL

Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:07 pm

We have a SL+ with 62 kWh battery. We routinely do a 125 mile one way trip between houses in similar environment to you being we are in Florida. After driving the 125 miles between 55-60 MPH we arrive we show 80-90 miles or range remaining. So max distance at 55-60 MPH is about 200 miles or 180 miles with some comfortable reserve.

Around town we do much better. Probably get real range of 225 miles in city driving.

It’s the drag at highway speeds that kills range.

Those numbers are using the AC all the time.

Btw. Count on about 25 miles of range, not 30 miles, added per hour plugged into a L2 charger.
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Re: Real range of Leaf SL

Fri May 01, 2020 9:15 am

Flyct wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:07 pm

It’s the drag at highway speeds that kills range.
Plus the power loss (I^2 X R) of the battery, the motor & its controller, at highway speeds.
#1 Leaf SL MY 9/13: 76K miles, 47 Ahrs, 5.0 miles/kWh (average), Hx=70, SOH=73, L2 - 100% > 1000, temp < 95F, (DOD) > 20 Ahrs
#2 Leaf SL MY 12/18: 10.3K miles, SOH 109Ahrs/115Ahrs, 5.2 miles/kWh (average), DOD > 20%, temp < 105F

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Re: Real range of Leaf SL

Fri May 01, 2020 4:02 pm

Thanks!!! This is getting very interesting!!!

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