johnlocke
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Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:47 pm
Delivery Date: 14 Dec 2015
Leaf Number: 300582

Re: I'm buying a used Leaf. Should I avoid the 30kWh battery? Did that BMS update help? Does the warranty help?

Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:33 pm

It seems that early 2016 30 KWH packs may have a higher defect rate than late 2016 or 2017 30 KWH packs. If I were looking, I'd look for a late build 2016 with a 30 KWH battery, or any 2017 model since they all had 30 KWH batteries. A 2017 coming off lease could be a very good deal. As far as battery degradation goes, if you drive the car enough to get to 100K before the warranty ends,you will still have 20 KWH capacity at a minimum. That's a lot better then what you would get with a 24 KWH battery. If the battery qualifies for replacement before 8 years/100000 mi, you will most likely get a 40 KWH battery as a replacement. There's a lot of upsides to buying a 30 KWH vs a 24 KWH, so unless you can get an extraordinary deal on a 24 KWH car, get a 30 KWH.
2016 SV, New battery at 45K mi.
Jamul, CA
San Diego East County

PrairieLEAF
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Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:58 am
Delivery Date: 04 Feb 2019
Location: Weld County, Colorado

Re: I'm buying a used Leaf. Should I avoid the 30kWh battery? Did that BMS update help? Does the warranty help?

Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:55 am

I'm very glad to have the 30 kWh pack. It's a late-2016 with 29k miles that's shown 12 bars in the 13 months it's been with me. I don't know if it's had a BMS update. It's very helpful to have over 120 miles of range in ECO-mode in nice weather, and the extra capacity lets you be easier on the battery (not charge it all the way), and have enough safety margin left over. When charged to 100%, it gives me the confidence to take mountain trips and go camping (with public charging). I took it over an 11,300-ft mountain pass in August (and plan to again this year).

I didn't find Carvana to be very competitively priced on LEAFs when I was looking (although they seemed competitive on the Fiat 500e and Spark EV). I too didn't feel entirely comfortable having them bring a car to me, where I would feel more obligated to commit. This LEAF had been sitting on a GM dealer's lot for a while. It didn't make a great impression in the ad, and wasn't on my short list, but completely sold me when I went in person, and I brought it home the same day.

Best wishes!
2016 LEAF S-30 w/QC "Lexie"

OaklandCA
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Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:53 pm
Delivery Date: 02 Mar 2020

Re: I'm buying a used Leaf. Should I avoid the 30kWh battery? Did that BMS update help? Does the warranty help?

Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:56 pm

You guys are really helping me feel more informed, thank you!

OaklandCA
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Delivery Date: 02 Mar 2020

Re: I'm buying a used Leaf. Should I avoid the 30kWh battery? Did that BMS update help? Does the warranty help?

Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:10 pm

johnlocke, how would I know which 2016s are late build?

LeftieBiker
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Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: I'm buying a used Leaf. Should I avoid the 30kWh battery? Did that BMS update help? Does the warranty help?

Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:52 pm

The build date for all Leafs is on the manufacturer's sticker on the driver's side door sill. It gives month and year of manufacture.
Scarlet Ember 2018 Leaf SL W/ Pro Pilot
2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 3 EZIP E-bicycles.
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PLEASE don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

OaklandCA
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Delivery Date: 02 Mar 2020

Re: I'm buying a used Leaf. Should I avoid the 30kWh battery? Did that BMS update help? Does the warranty help?

Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:24 pm

Thanks, Leftie! looks like it's time for me to start hitting the lots.

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