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Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:40 pm
by WetEV
So 2016 was the warmest year on record. As was 2015, until 2016 came a long.

Maybe we might get a La Nina and cool down a bit...

Or maybe not.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... disc.shtml
ENSO-neutral conditions are favored to continue through at least the Northern Hemisphere spring 2017, with increasing chances for El Niño development into the fall.
Still early for accurate forecasting. But another El Nino might make for yet another even hotter year.

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:45 pm
by WetEV

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:08 am
by WetEV
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
Seven of eight models indicate that sea surface temperatures will exceed El Niño thresholds during the second half of 2017. However, some caution must be exercised as models have lower accuracy at this time of year.
El Nino years have usually been warmer. Three record high global temperature years in a row, might we get four?

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:18 pm
by RegGuheert
LTLFTcomposite wrote:
WetEV wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/art ... pite-trump
The message of the movie seems to be: If he’s not losing hope, no one else should be either.
In one of the movie’s most memorable scenes, Gore travels to Georgetown, Tex., which is, per the city’s mayor, a red city in the reddest county in the red state of Texas. The reason for the visit is that Georgetown is heavily investing in renewable energy from the wind and sun, and once it goes 100 percent renewable, it will be the largest city in the country to do so.

It just made economic sense, the mayor tells Gore.
Here's the deal, unless Michael Moore or Al Gore get elected as prime minister of the world the human race's choices of energy sources will be driven by the economics of technology, not by what people in Washington or Paris believe. The solutions lie in self interest.
Well, the idiot mayor of Georgetown, TX, gambled other people's money and he lost: Epic fail of renewables causes citizens of Texas town to have $1200 higher power bills
Political leaders in a college town in central Texas won wide praise from former Vice President Al Gore and the larger Green Movement when they decided to go “100 percent renewable” seven years ago. Now, however, they are on the defensive over electricity costs that have their residents paying more than $1,000 per household in higher electricity charges over the last four years.

That’s right – $1,219 per household in higher electricity costs for the 71,000 residents of Georgetown, Texas, all thanks to the decision of its Republican mayor, Dale Ross, to launch a bold plan to shift the city’s municipal utility to 100 percent renewable power in 2012.

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:09 am
by Oilpan4
RegGuheert wrote:
LTLFTcomposite wrote:
In one of the movie’s most memorable scenes, Gore travels to Georgetown, Tex., which is, per the city’s mayor, a red city in the reddest county in the red state of Texas. The reason for the visit is that Georgetown is heavily investing in renewable energy from the wind and sun, and once it goes 100 percent renewable, it will be the largest city in the country to do so.

It just made economic sense, the mayor tells Gore.
Here's the deal, unless Michael Moore or Al Gore get elected as prime minister of the world the human race's choices of energy sources will be driven by the economics of technology, not by what people in Washington or Paris believe. The solutions lie in self interest.
Well, the idiot mayor of Georgetown, TX, gambled other people's money and he lost: Epic fail of renewables causes citizens of Texas town to have $1200 higher power bills
Political leaders in a college town in central Texas won wide praise from former Vice President Al Gore and the larger Green Movement when they decided to go “100 percent renewable” seven years ago. Now, however, they are on the defensive over electricity costs that have their residents paying more than $1,000 per household in higher electricity charges over the last four years.

That’s right – $1,219 per household in higher electricity costs for the 71,000 residents of Georgetown, Texas, all thanks to the decision of its Republican mayor, Dale Ross, to launch a bold plan to shift the city’s municipal utility to 100 percent renewable power in 2012.
That should go over real well with 68% of people unwilling to pay more than $10 per month to "fix global warming". (According to newsweek)
I think paying $100 per month more for "100%" renewable power falls under "fixing global warming".