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Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:02 pm
by WetEV
So this doesn't get forgotten. Trump might find a problem he didn't expect on his desk.

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Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:54 am
by LTLFTcomposite
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/16/investi ... index.html

My prediction: They make some big splash at a coal mine in West Virginia that they're going to keep a few people on longer then the whole thing just sort of fades away. Bottom-line millennials aren't going to work in coal mines.

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:34 pm
by LeftieBiker
NPR (I think) just did a piece on coal miners, and it seems they are getting the more severe version of Black Lung disease at much higher rates than previously thought. The reason is that the remaining coal seams are small, so rock is mined and crushed along with the coal, producing very toxic silica-heavy rock dust that is much more toxic than coal dust alone.

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:54 am
by DanCar
LeftieBiker wrote:NPR (I think) just did a piece on coal miners, and it seems they are getting the more severe version of Black Lung disease at much higher rates than previously thought. The reason is that the remaining coal seams are small, so rock is mined and crushed along with the coal, producing very toxic silica-heavy rock dust that is much more toxic than coal dust alone.
PBS NewsHour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-lasggfisg

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:48 pm
by LTLFTcomposite
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/20/opinions/ ... index.html
The far left has tried to distort Pruitt's views in a lame attempt to make him into an anti-science boogeyman. The Scott Pruitt I know is far from it. Unlike liberals who want to shut down any rational debate about climate change, Pruitt has acknowledged human impact on the climate and supports a robust discussion about its effects and what the government should and shouldn't do to address it.
People are getting all worked up over nothing.

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:09 pm
by GetOffYourGas
The liberal media has distorted and misrepresented a Conservative's position? I'm speechless!

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:20 pm
by Stoaty
Let's see what Scott Pruitt actually said:

"That debate is far from settled. Scientists continue to disagree about the degree and extent of global warming and its connection to the actions of mankind. "

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435470/

Those are the words of a climate science denier, since for practical purposes there isn't any significant debate about the fact that the climate is changing in a way that will be very bad for humans over the next 50-100 years and that the change is primarily caused by humans.

Jeb Bush is putting lipstick on a pig.

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:23 pm
by WetEV
GetOffYourGas wrote:The liberal media has distorted and misrepresented a Conservative's position? I'm speechless!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-moment-t ... 08601.html

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:48 pm
by LTLFTcomposite
WetEV wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:The liberal media has distorted and misrepresented a Conservative's position? I'm speechless!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-moment-t ... 08601.html
Congratulations on establishing that it's all Bush's fault.

Re: Trump EV/alternative energy/climate/environmental policy bashing and discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:53 pm
by WetEV
LTLFTcomposite wrote:Congratulations on establishing that it's all Bush's fault.
Oh, and Bush of course was blameless. Just lied about "weapons of mass destruction" to start a war and kill thousands of Americans and more than 250,000 people. That's not even worth mentioning, is it? Sorry for bringing it up. I'll try to do better.

You already established that it's all the media's fault. Never mind that the media ranges from Mother Jones to Fox. Oh, I'd bet you never read Mother Jones. Try this:

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2 ... -governing