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'16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatible?

Sat May 30, 2015 2:33 pm

drees wrote:
evnow wrote:Back on topic, pls. Don't want to start deleting posts.
Deleting posts for being OT is not the correct moderator action. Moving posts is. I will try to clean the thread up myself later tonight, but please do not delete posts.
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Re: '16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatibility and warranty?

Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:48 pm

nerys wrote: For my delivery job range is not the issue. The slow 3.3kwh charger is the issue.

30kw with 6.6kwh charger would pretty end any issues i have.
Not sure why you keep mixing up units. You have kW and kWh reversed...

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Re: '16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatibility and warranty?

Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:29 pm

cwerdna wrote:
nerys wrote:For my delivery job range is not the issue. The slow 3.3kwh charger is the issue.

30kw with 6.6kwh charger would pretty end any issues i have.
Not sure why you keep mixing up units. You have kW and kWh reversed...
Probably because kW is something people associate with power (with good reason...) and when they have "hours" as part of the thing, they think "kilowatts per hour" (which doesn't make sense, because kilowatts are the amount of power at a point in time) rather than kilowatt-hours.
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Re: '16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatibility and warranty?

Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:57 pm

^^^
I dunno, we've had numerous people try to set him straight before. After that, sometimes, he's gotten it right and other times, he hasn't.

See http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 0&start=10" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 5&start=11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

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Re: '16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatibility and warranty?

Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:59 pm

cwerdna wrote:I dunno, we've had numerous people try to set him straight before. .
Interesting that this seems so important to you..

Hmmm..

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Re: '16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatibility and warranty?

Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:05 pm

Incorrect words are a bad thing in general.
They create confusion and poor communication.
But most have given up on correcting all. ;)

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Re: '16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatibility and warranty?

Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:24 pm

TimLee wrote:Incorrect words are a bad thing in general.
They create confusion and poor communication.
Yes, and when someone persists in this I am not sure if they don't understand the difference or can't be bothered to use the words correctly. Either way, I tend to discount to some degree other comments/observations of such a person.
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Re: '16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatibility and warranty?

Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:26 pm

no they are not. you are just an *** because I forgot an h in my typing

sc*** off troll.

edited to appease.
Last edited by nerys on Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: '16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatibility and warranty?

Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:06 pm

Stoaty wrote:
TimLee wrote:Incorrect words are a bad thing in general.
They create confusion and poor communication.
Yes, and when someone persists in this I am not sure if they don't understand the difference or can't be bothered to use the words correctly. Either way, I tend to discount to some degree other comments/observations of such a person.
Yep.
cwerdna wrote:
nerys wrote: For my delivery job range is not the issue. The slow 3.3kwh charger is the issue.

30kw with 6.6kwh charger would pretty end any issues i have.
Not sure why you keep mixing up units. You have kW and kWh reversed...
nerys wrote:no they are not. you are just an ass because I forgot an h in my typing
But you ADDED an h, twice, where there shouldn't have been any.
desiv wrote:
cwerdna wrote:I dunno, we've had numerous people try to set him straight before. .
Interesting that this seems so important to you..
As I've basically posted elsewhere, using incorrect units can get confusing when certain numbers are similar...

The Model S is currently available with 70 and 85 kWh capacity batteries. And, it has 10 kW and 20 kW AC charging options... And this thread that I haven't really followed: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthre ... post546550" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; re: being older Teslas being limited to 90 kW Supercharging.

Most sub-$40K pure BEVs have usable battery capacities in the 20 kWh range. The PHEV Volt has ~10.5 kWh usable.

http://www.mybmwi3.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 7317#p1750 says a Leaf needs almost 23 kW to maintain 70 mph.

Tesla Model S can have either single 10 kW OBC or dual OBCs for 20 kW charging on 80 amp EVSEs. Leaf has a 24 kWh capacity battery. BMW/Bosch has a 24 kW SAE Combo DC FC: http://www.bmwicharging.com/BMWiDCFastCharger" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Other recent Tesla-powered vehicles (e.g. Rav4 and Mercedes B-Class ED) have a single 10 kW OBC.

See how things can be confusing, if the wrong units are used? There was a great post on MNL (which I can't find) that made light of it and pointed out the importance...

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Re: '16 30 kWh pack - backwards compatibility and warranty?

Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:23 pm

cwerdna wrote:
nerys wrote:no they are not. you are just an ass because I forgot an h in my typing

screw off troll.
But you ADDED an h, twice, where there shouldn't have been any.
Still doesn't understand how he is using terms incorrectly, yet calls those who are trying to educate him trolls. Simply amazing... but sad.
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