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Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:04 pm

Here's a little diversion from mundane stuff like how much it will cost to rent a battery for your Leaf at some point in the future. OK guys, have at it... but play nice. :D
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Re: Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:12 pm

Hero!
Stoaty wrote:Here's a little diversion from mundane stuff like how much it will cost to rent a battery for your Leaf at some point in the future. OK guys, have at it... but play nice. :D
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Re: Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:42 pm

Patriot
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:49 pm

Undecided. Every item Snowden leaked I assumed already.

For that matter I am more concerned about private sector data bases.

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Re: Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:40 pm

Good guy.
One day you wake up and realize you live in a police state where the gov spies on everyone.
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Re: Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:17 pm

Brave!
Got me calling my congress rep and saying, I'm a constituent and I'm calling about NSA spying. Congress should form an independent, fully empowered Congressional committee to investigate NSA spying, and enact strong new laws to protect my private communications. We need to stop the NSA from spying on Americans."
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Re: Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:18 pm

Hero, brave whistleblower. Started an important conversation that should have happened years ago. I find it interesting how so many politicians on both sides of the aisle just follow the govt. line that he is a traitor and that the massive data collection and eavesdropping is just fine. I was expecting more of our representatives to be wanting to engage in a serious conversation. Our representatives? Not so brave.
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Re: Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:07 pm

leafedbehind wrote: Our representatives? Not so brave.
but the more threads they read like this that show overwhelming popularity supporting him, they will change their tune....oh wait, that just confirms your point...representatives are not so brave.
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Re: Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:09 am

Wait a minute. Does no one believe an oath should be honored?
Guess not, at least not the previous posters. Snowden and Manning - a pair of absolute traitors. Exile for both, they are scum.
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Re: Edward Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:30 am

ebill3 wrote:Wait a minute. Does no one believe an oath should be honored?
Guess not, at least not the previous posters. Snowden and Manning - a pair of absolute traitors. Exile for both, they are scum.
What oath?

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