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Re: actual selling prices for used 2013 Leafs in SF Bay Area?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:00 am
by stjohnh
Well, I live in the Bay Area and have bought several used cars on Craig's List. If you change the search criteria to include only owner sale cars (no dealers) and go to the middle of the pack of cars left, you see prices about $7k. That is probably pretty close to what actual sales prices are, maybe a tad lower. Note that at least in the Bay Area there are quite a few amateur dealers that sell cars but list them as if they are individual car owners. I would be sure to take a LeafSpy dongle with me when looking at used Leafs (actually any used car).

In California, to register a used ICE car to a new owner requires a smog check. If the check engine light is on, the car is nearly impossible to sell, and it is well known that anyone can temporarily clear the check engine light by disconnecting the battery for a while. The DTC code reader (LeafSpy dongle) will tell me if there are "pending" DTC codes, which means the car will likely fail a smog check.

Re: actual selling prices for used 2013 Leafs in SF Bay Area?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:12 am
by SageBrush
stjohnh wrote:Well, I live in the Bay Area and have bought several used cars on Craig's List. If you change the search criteria to include only owner sale cars (no dealers) and go to the middle of the pack of cars left, you see prices about $7k. That is probably pretty close to what actual sales prices are, maybe a tad lower. Note that at least in the Bay Area there are quite a few amateur dealers that sell cars but list them as if they are individual car owners. I would be sure to take a LeafSpy dongle with me when looking at used Leafs (actually any used car).

In California, to register a used ICE car to a new owner requires a smog check. If the check engine light is on, the car is nearly impossible to sell, and it is well known that anyone can temporarily clear the check engine light by disconnecting the battery for a while. The DTC code reader (LeafSpy dongle) will tell me if there are "pending" DTC codes, which means the car will likely fail a smog check.
Does CA require a smog check for an EV ?

Re: actual selling prices for used 2013 Leafs in SF Bay Area?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:38 am
by cwerdna
SageBrush wrote: Does CA require a smog check for an EV ?
No.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy ... vr/smogfaq

Re: actual selling prices for used 2013 Leafs in SF Bay Area?

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:54 am
by cwerdna
cwerdna wrote: Someone at work pointed this out and kinda puts a damper on my expectations: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... RTSEMLSRCH.

It's a Bay Area '13 SL w/premium package for $5,983! It looks like it resided in the Bay Area the whole time but they took clear pics of the wrong things. It looks like it's a 10 bar car from the blurry pics but it was built 9/2013 so I guess the previous drivers didn't take great care of the battery. It's at a Mercedes dealer so perhaps that explains the pics of the wrong things.
The link is dead as the car's no longer available. I can only assume it's been sold as https://www.autobahnmotors.com/used-car ... or-model-4 no longer has any '13 Leafs in their inventory.

The '11 Leaf for $5,791 (https://www.autobahnmotors.com/used/Nis ... 66f91e.htm) is hilarious. As I posted in the '11-12 capacity loss thread, it's apparently an 8 bar loser! Only 4 capacity bars remain. This is the worst I've ever seen a pic of for a car in the US. The worst I recall seeing a pic of was a 9 bar loser in Sri Lanka.