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CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:00 am
by mwalsh
Trying to decide on removing the HOV decals from the LEAF and the Volt come New Year. They are looking a bit shabby on both cars, but if I take them off and then remove the adhesive residue, I'm probably going to have a ghost image of the shape in the less faded paint underneath.

What are you guys going to do?

Re: CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:44 am
by evtifosi
We don't have carpool lanes in our direct area - so I never put them on...fearing paint issues.

I wish I hadn't applied for them, as I could have waited until we sold the car - or ordered the latest when/if we really needed them. At the time we bought I didn't think about the need, or not, for them so we just ordered them. Now that I realize that we could have postponed getting the stickers and thus get a later version (red ones?)...

Oh well - I haven't needed them, so I won't miss them when they expire.

Re: CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:54 pm
by Nubo
mwalsh wrote:Trying to decide on removing the HOV decals from the LEAF and the Volt come New Year. They are looking a bit shabby on both cars, but if I take them off and then remove the adhesive residue, I'm probably going to have a ghost image of the shape in the less faded paint underneath.

What are you guys going to do?
I'll remove them. There are some tips on this teslamotorsclub page: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ker.78541/

I have thoughts of plasti-dipping the whole car. The pieces I did 4 years ago are holding up fairly well.

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Re: CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:30 pm
by cmwade77
I get the red replacement stickers, so I am going to have to. I wonder how many other 2013 Leafs will be out there with red stickers....I love the fact that it never had stickers prior to me buying it last year.

Re: CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:03 pm
by wwhitney
I got red stickers for a 2017 EV, and I decided to remove the white stickers, rather than just cover them up. Big mistake, it was huge pain:

The sticker was a 2 layer construction, with the top layer designed to separate relatively easily from the bottom layer as an anti-theft measure. The bottom layer was well adhered and impervious to the solvents I was willing to try (isopropanol, ethanol, and "green" mineral spirits). So I had to manually scrape the bottom layer off, very laboriously. The alcohols were slightly effective in softening any remaining residue, but more scraping was required.

Cheers, Wayne

Re: CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:57 pm
by RonDawg
Although I no longer own a Leaf and have an eGolf now, I do have white stickers on the car and yes I plan on removing them as they are pre-2017 issue. I always hated the look of them but I was willing to tolerate it for the convenience of solo HOV lane privileges, even though I was not a frequent user nor were there any in my commute.

I am concerned about them leaving a “shadow” but as my car is garaged both at home and work I’m hoping the exposed area will have minimal fading.

Re: CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:40 am
by davewill
Yeah, I'll take them off my RAV4EV. I have, I think, the best case, white stickers on a white car, but they are still butt ugly. That's the best I can say for them. The state should have really come up with something better.

Re: CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:49 pm
by Sondy132001
I was gonna try and color my white stickers red with erase red markers haha if that doesn't work I am buying a new leaf this month to get my last tax break and car-pool lane usage ... that's all I really care about, traffic is brutal for me !

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Re: CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:48 pm
by Reddy
No carpool lanes for me, but removing stickers is often easier if you warm them up with a hair dryer/heat gun. The adhesives underneath need to be warmed up, but not too hot to burn the plastic/paper sticker. The thicker the label or adhesive, the more heat needed. I've done this with a large number of different types of labels (including DOT labels and wine bottle labels) and can tell you that success is definitely label/adhesive specific. You can use one person, especially for single labels, but for processing multiple labels, use two people. I find the best method is to heat the label, use a flat blade (exacto knife, box cutter, single razor blade, etc) to get under the label without scratching the surface or burning your fingers, then pull the label off with needle-nose pliers, all the while continuing to heat the label as needed with the heat gun. Pull slowly to keep the label in one piece, otherwise you will need to start over with a new edge.

Finally, another secret for removing any residual gummy adhesive is to scrub lightly with a Borax soap and water paste. This works better than any solvent (which just dissolves and smears the residue) because the Borax is slightly basic, slightly soap-like, and has scrubbing qualities that cause the adhesive to ball up and become easier to remove. Fair warning, Borax is slightly poisonous (see Wikipedia) so don't eat it, but it's a great way to clean up certain messes.

Unfortunately, I can't help with the obvious lack of sun-fade where the label once was.

Re: CA owners - are you removing your white/green HOV decals?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:12 pm
by mwalsh
Reddy wrote:No carpool lanes for me, but removing stickers is often easier if you warm them up with a hair dryer/heat gun. The adhesives underneath need to be warmed up, but not too hot to burn the plastic/paper sticker.
I'd use a hair dryer certainly, but my heat gun settings are 800 degrees and 1200 degrees - I'm not sure I'd go there on a plastic bumper cover.