joeriv wrote:Look at the asterisks- I am sure tax and license fees are not included, so it's not an out-the-door price.
Yeah - Colorado registration fees are typically 85% of MSRP + $100. Not sure about sales tax (I'm lucky that I live in a 4.25% area). Oh and another $50 EV Colorado tax is added to ownership fees. So very roughly I'd expect about $1000-$1500 in fees and taxes on a $40,000 MSRP, a little less for $33,000.
Also, the federal rebate ($7500) is not applied at time of purchase - so one would have to add that to the "out-the-door" price too, and hopefully be able to claim the maximum amount back from the IRS come tax time next year.
However after all the dust settles, $11,500 all-in for a brand new S is a pretty sweet deal! Think I'm gonna visit the guys on Arapahoe road later today to see what SV or SL could work out to a similar number...
It is a deal worth considering ... but do keep in mind that more evidence is emerging that Nissan has changed the battery degradation thresholds for capacity bar loss and you may well be stuck with a car that rapidly degrades to ~ 42 Ahr before the Nissan battery replacement warranty kicks in. In other words, you better be comfortable with a car that is useful to you with a summer range of ~ 55 miles. This degraded range would not always be true but would represent the range nadirs in between battery replacements.
I've decided that the 24 and 30 kWh LEAF models are a luxury NEV -- neighborhood EV. Assumptions of use for longer drives are far from a given. And as a NEV, the used models are better value. A 2017 or 2013/4 car are virtually identical but the used car is cheaper to buy, has much cheaper taxes, and can be cheaper to insure since the value is low enough to do without comp insurance or at least take out a high deductible. Those were my thoughts when I first thought to buy a new LEAF early this year and then changed my mind and bought used.
Addendum: Colorado taxes, new Vs used car calc
I'm ignoring the fees that apply to both cars ..
We pay a sales tax based on MSRP that ranges form ~ 4 -7% depending on your county
We pay an 'ownership' tax (property tax) of 2.1% year 1; 1.5% year 2; 1.2% year 3; 0.9% year 4; 0.45% years 5-9 -- all on 85% of msrp
If a new car is 32k and a 3 year old used car is 8k, the difference in total taxes over 5 years of ownership will be as low as
24,000 * (0.04+0.04) = $1920
And as much as
24,000* (0.07+0.04) = $2660
Depending on county