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Re: Rapidgate Firsthand last Weekend

Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:53 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:02 pm
16 kWh charge rate is a pain. The lowest I had heard before (where not station limited) was 20. Even at 10 and 11 bars on my Plus I could get 50 kWh. (I haven’t seen 12 bars)
Your 62kWh battery is 52% more capacity & therefore heats up quite a bit less than the 40kWh at the same freeway speed because the additional capacity largely through additional cells are discharging at a lower C rate so the heat given off during that discharge process is lower.

And when charging you again have 52% more capacity so your 50KW charge rate is equivalent to a 33KW charge rate in a 40kWh car.
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04/19, 10K mi: Ahr= 111.45 / SOH= 96.54 / HX= 113.82%
11/19, 20K mi: Ahr= 107.44 / SOH= 93.07 / HX= 109.96%

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Re: Rapidgate Firsthand last Weekend

Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:31 pm

I guess some improvement is better than none. In a few years time, if I still can't afford a used Bolt then I would consider a 40 kWh LEAF if the price is right.
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Re: Rapidgate Firsthand last Weekend

Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:49 pm

The road trip experience does have me rethinking my next vehicle when my lease is up next year. Mach-E? I might consider the Ariya if it is a thing and can handle multiple fast charges.

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Re: Rapidgate Firsthand last Weekend

Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:59 pm

I have found that for the 2nd and 3rd charge of the day with a 40kWh car, letting the car sit idle for about 10 minutes makes a real difference in how much power the car will take. Another observation is that slowing down for the last 10-15 miles before a 2nd-3rd quick charge speeds things up too. And lastly keeping the car in the 20-85% range gives the best overall charging speeds.

Running the battery down below 20% and charging above 85% will stretch charging sessions out.
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Re: Rapidgate Firsthand last Weekend

Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:21 pm

I think I understand why charging over 85% would extend the time but why does starting below 20% make a difference? Just curious as I've only needed 1 QC in 3 years of Leaf ownership.

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