LeftieBiker wrote:What I'm saying is that the update just temporarily inflated the SOH by a bit more than the amount of capacity lost, with none of that 'phantom regained capacity' sticking around. So we have either a programming defect in the BMS that doesn't affect many/most 30kwh Leafs, or a software "fix" that doesn't fix anything. If my 2013 had suffered a 27% capacity loss over three years I'd have been damned upset.
Measurement on a group of cars showed that capacity was more accurately measured after the firmware update.
https://flipthefleet.org/2018/30-kwh-ni ... reporting/
SOH is an estimate, not a measurement. Don't take it as exact, as it is not. At minimum, +-3%. Probably more. Especially with the bad firmware.
27% loss is not what is being reported. 9% is. 27% is a linear extrapolation based on 90k miles. Or 30% for 100k miles. Or warranty limit at 110k miles, 10k miles past the limit. Real capacity loss isn't linear, the first couple of percent should happen fairly quickly, then it slows down for a while. SOH might or might not show this, SOH is an estimate, remember?
If you drove 2013 for 90k miles and you had a 27% loss would you be damned upset? That's one and a half time the warranty. If you drove for $0.27 per mile, you would be damned upset? Really??? How cheap would it have to be to make you just upset, rather than damned upset? Would "happy" come before $0.00 per mile?
Less tax credits, etc. Plus insurance, electric costs, tires, window washer fluid, etc.
https://exchange.aaa.com/wp-content/upl ... Lo-5-2.pdf
AAA says that an electric is still slightly more expensive per mile than a hybrid, and slightly lower cost per mile than the average vehicle. The electric is getting cheaper. The average vehicle is getting more expensive. Where you and I live, we should do better with electrics than the AAA's national average because our electric power is cheap and our climates make batteries last longer. We have a shot of beating the Prius, even with the older cars with smaller and shorter lived batteries. Someone in LA probably doesn't. Someone in Bullhead City??