GaleHawkins wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:14 am
cwerdna wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:42 am
LeftieBiker wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:01 pm
Yes. Yes it is too much trouble for the average FB denizen, I'm afraid.
Indeed. Although some people jumped in using the right units and tried to explain things, some of it is a total cluster@$# because a few of them besides the OP of the thread can't seem to get kW vs. kWh straight.
Now that Tesla is leading the World to EV understanding and acceptance terms like kWh will become better known and understood. I have owned the Leaf for a year now and by buying one with a bad battery has been educational about EV things which was my main objective.
LOL. Good luck with that. Tesla starting with the 3 and now has migrated to their enter product line has obfuscated in their specs and marketing material the actual battery capacity of their vehicle. Model S and X were originally sold w/the battery capacity listed and even part of the model "number" (e.g. 60, 85, S 85, etc.)
From experience w/Tesla drivers who have never had an EV before like some of my cow-orkers and some others I don't know besides some posts on "TMC" and other forums, many of them think of miles as "energy" when it's not (e.g. "how many miles did it add?", "it used up n miles of range", "I had x miles left") and talk about "miles per hour" of charging because their in-car and in-app UI shows that + other units.
Becomes super confusing when there are tables like https://web.archive.org/web/20190325232 ... -connector
that assume 240 volts but at work our supply voltage is 208 volts and we have ChargePoint L2 CT-4000 EVSEs that are 30 amps max and Tesla wall connectors in a power sharing arrangement so they could output 40 or 80 amps max. But the attached vehicle (depending on model and when it was built) could have 32, 40, 48, 72 or 80 amps of on-board charger. That revision of table assumes 48 amp OBC max as that's all Tesla sells now but we have plenty of 72 amp OBC Teslas at work and some 80 amp OBC ones.
We sometimes see pings in Slack at work like... "I'm getting 25 miles per hour of charging, is the normal?" The reply back has to be, "just tell me the voltage and amps the app is saying".
I had a "street"... err L2 charger encounter w/a Model S person who had their car for 3 years and they clearly didn't learn much about electricity: https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 01#p460701
. And on, TMC, there are still posts like https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... 75d.209415
And these Reeler guy makes me SMH:
https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 43#p564743
https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 45#p565245
He may have been the first person in San Diego to receive a Leaf in Dec 2010 yet 6 years later, he doesn't know the difference between kW and kWh.