Yup, it worked, and here is my first 'new subject' post, Mahalo!
https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 92#p596592
I was thinking about relatively inexpensive upgrades costs for the Leaf and I organized my thinking along the following ideas:
1) Previous discussions here
2) Emerging costs saving ideas including rebates
3) Upgrade example
4) Categories of costs savings
1) In another subforum here:
I have found vigorous conversation on kWh and variations (intended or otherwise) (i.e. technical issues / nomenclature). Two outstanding figures in that forum are Daniel / Dala the Great (https://dalasevrepair.fi/
) and Muxan (https://muxsan.com/English/index.html
). I believe their work has helped fundamentally set the foundation for DYI upgrades and a growing cottage industry installers (ranging from mobile mechanics to full on EV battery replacement shops). Along those lines, as well, Evehanced (https://evsenhanced.com/services/hv-bat
... -upgrades/ ) has come out with some really cool tools to make battery pairing a snap, and in North America, EVRIDESLLC (https://evridesllc.com/
) among others are also doing battery upgrades / enhancements on a professional level (with professional prices to boot).
Personally, in the other forum I referred to, I really loved learning about the namesakes behind the units and other aspects, very cool!). I think common to a number of sub forums a major purposes is to make this all doable, i.e. low / lower cost upgrades.
2) Maybe we can create a kind of an emerging / evolving database listing current / future (?) incentives within North America by state / province and utility so folks who want to go the route of purchasing an inexpensive used Leaf (i.e. $3k or less) can upgrade with these kinds of incentives.
It also means that even down the road for someone who is still holding on to their 24 kWh Leaf, by having that dynamic information readily attainable, we are encouraging / facilitating that kind of recycling / upgrading (and fun to boot)!
3) In my case for example in Southern California, I bought a 2011 6 bar Leaf last year for $3k and then added a 62 kWh battery upgrade.
After initial purchase, my costs were $7500 for a 62 kWh battery + $1300 installation (in Los Angeles) for about $8800 (U.S.) or €7200 (Euro) before local incentives such as SCE in my case (as well as buy back for part of my old battery back) kicked in.
For me, that made the vehicle a really good investment for the next 10 years, 230+ mileage range for well under 11k (with my incentives). At the moment, that strikes it about $4k under just buying a used Bolt -- which means it has its own sweet spot, I think. (In Los Angeles, for example, a Bolt can be had for starting about $15k + 10% tax).
Some states / electric companies (i.e. CA / SCE) may provide rebates for used EVs, and that might help some folks reduce that cost even more. In CA, the the current round of SCE rebate, to my knowledge finished last year (2020).
Los Angeles County
Bay Area, California
I also came across a sort of state listing which seems pretty promising for lots of EV resources, used and new :
4) Again pieces of the the main idea are :
a) Making the Leaf super affordable by way of any mechanism (rebates, low battery exchanges / upgrades, purchasing)
b) Keeping an eye out on great battery deals for the 62 kWh or 40 kWh (my local installer, gave me three sites at the time to look for purchasing. Then, I had the option of getting a 40 kWh battery for about $5500 (I'll have to check my notes), but I decided more range would better over the long term.
At the moment, http://www.advanceautosalvage.com/
is selling a 40 kWh for about $7k. They ship nationally.
And if you're really a go getter:
c) Giving folks the best strategies of when to buy a used one to take advantage of an 8 bar under warranty
d) Strategies for getting the 30 kwh battery upgraded for free
e) Engaging in preventative repair and cheap repair shops that are Leaf friendly
f) Understanding how to best sell the old pack to recoup some, if not all costs (or more!) of installation,
g) free / low cost charging (including cheap solar panel ideas) and
h) ? (anything along those lines to make the Leaf a budget friendly vehicle for many years to come)
So if you have an addons to this, I hope you'd be doing a service for a lot of folks who might not have known there were resources available for really low cost vehicle ownership over an extended period of time.
update: Installer is MIA, has several BBB complaints against him, he is still taking new customers but doesn't return calls (he has no voicemail nor address). Trouble, stay away!!!