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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Fri May 10, 2013 9:31 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:Has anyone driven their Leaf in the 45-50 mile range for 80%+ of their battery? According to the charts, you should easily be able to push 100 miles at 45/hr. Yes this is bottom edge of freeway legal, but tolerable for distances of about up to 100 miles. Beyond that, its Tesla or ICE right now.
you might be able to do it but the times I went over 100 miles on a charge was all in town driving at 25-40 mph and I did a lot of coasting. now, I did this twice in Summer, once in Winter (that was a REAL challenge) and I think its not so much speed that is important since of the 3 100 mile events, only one was planned. the other two I did only because I had started out with really good numbers early and decided to go for it which means twice it happened during my somewhat normal driving routines and I think it was more a case of dumb luck than any driving skills I had in just hitting green lights, missing traffic, etc. IOW, the real issue is finding 100 miles of fairly open uninterrupted driving at low speeds... not such an easy thing to do
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun May 12, 2013 10:48 am

Is that true that 13SV can give better miles range then 11/12SV. ??
If both are driven under similar conditions.

13SL has the solar panel which can help to run AC I think..
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun May 12, 2013 10:51 am

No, there is no real demonstrated difference in range between a 2011, 2012 or 2013. The solar panel, which is also on the 2011 and 2012 SL is only for trickle charging the 12 volt battery and has no affect on range or power usage.
freshleaf wrote:Is that true that 13SV can give better miles range then 11/12SV. ??
If both are driven under similar conditions.

13SL has the solar panel which can help to run AC I think..
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun May 12, 2013 10:57 am

freshleaf wrote:Is that true that 13SV can give better miles range then 11/12SV. ??
If both are driven under similar conditions.

13SL has the solar panel which can help to run AC I think..
highway tests show there is no difference. if there is a range advantage, it would be in mixed city driving and such
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun May 12, 2013 11:09 am

TomT wrote:No, there is no real demonstrated difference in range between a 2011, 2012 or 2013. The solar panel, which is also on the 2011 and 2012 SL is only for trickle charging the 12 volt battery and has no affect on range or power usage.
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I am a New Bee to all this Leaf concept and done lot of reading too..
So AC use the Main Battery and will affect the range, any # what % drop like 10 or 20 if AC is turned ON for the whole trip.
I thought i read that if we turned on the AC and anything else then the Computer calculate the numbers expecting that the AC will be ON for the entire range so then it shows lower range numbers from the starting point A.
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun May 12, 2013 12:17 pm

freshleaf wrote:
TomT wrote:No, there is no real demonstrated difference in range between a 2011, 2012 or 2013. The solar panel, which is also on the 2011 and 2012 SL is only for trickle charging the 12 volt battery and has no affect on range or power usage.
I am a New Bee to all this Leaf concept and done lot of reading too..
So AC use the Main Battery and will affect the range, any # what % drop like 10 or 20 if AC is turned ON for the whole trip.
I thought i read that if we turned on the AC and anything else then the Computer calculate the numbers expecting that the AC will be ON for the entire range so then it shows lower range numbers from the starting point A.
Everything that is powered on the LEAF uses the main "traction" battery, just like everything on an oil burning car is powered by oil. The 12v battery on any car is replenished from the EV car's "DC to DC converter" or the oil burning car's alternator.

So, any autonomous vehicle consumes energy for its onboard climate control. The oil burner car has the luxury of being so grossly inefficient with waste heat that the heater use is "free".

Now, what you are talking about is the dash displayed numbers we call the GuessOmeter (GOM). Yes, it adjusts if you turn on the heater or air conditioning.

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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun May 12, 2013 12:31 pm

Thanks TonyW.

So what I learn so far is to get better Range try to control these variable.

1)Speed - stay less then 60 mph (ECO mode might be better)
2)Avoid using AC or Heater. (Climate control)
3) City driving better then HWY, since Breaking create more Energy.
4) Flat roads are better then Steep Roads to Drive.
5) Too much Cold or too much Hot Weather is not good and may affect the Battery.

I am trying to get a better Driving habits to get the most Range, it will take me some time since I come from Twin Turbo with getting into speeds I cant even mention on these boards.
BEV will change the way I drive in the PAST..

My goal is to get 60-70 miles on each charge, my normal runs wont be longer then 60 miles at the most and 44 miles at the Least..
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun May 12, 2013 1:29 pm

freshleaf wrote:...I am trying to get a better Driving habits to get the most Range, it will take me some time since I come from Twin Turbo with getting into speeds I cant even mention on these boards.
BEV will change the way I drive in the PAST..

My goal is to get 60-70 miles on each charge, my normal runs wont be longer then 60 miles at the most and 44 miles at the Least..
Whether you need to stretch the range or not it is good to learn how to drive efficiently so that someday when you do need the extra range it will be easier to accomplish. But, once you learn "hypermiling", if you don't need the range and want to play with the car, go for it.

Some of us like to drive efficiently whether we are using electrons or driving an ICE and trying to keep gasoline costs down. Others here prefer to "drive it like they stole it". I've had occasions when I got annoyed at someone following me too closely and gave the LEAF the full 80 kW just to watch them recede to a speck in my mirror. It may not be efficient but it can be fun.
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun May 12, 2013 2:31 pm

FWIW...Last week I got some very nice results on my 2 month old 2013 SV.

Best day was on Thursday....

Day started out at 45deg and 100% charge. After pre-heating the cabin, Idrove the just under 30 miles to drop my son off at school and then onto work. Mostly highway averaging around 50mph. At lunch I had a bunch of errand to run during my lunch break...put on around 24 miles, mostly at freeway speeds averaging between 60 and 65. After work, I unexpectedly had to pick my son up from school...another almost 30 miles. The day had warmed up nicely, no climate control was needed over lunch or in the afternoon.

In the end, I had traveled 82.5 miles. About 2 miles from home the low battery warning was triggered. I arrived home with 15% on the battery. Probably could not have made 100mi, but easily could have gone 90. The mix was about 30% freeway driving...averaging between 60 and 65. I would say 50% of the miles were secondary highways...driving between 40 and 55, with the remaining 20% of the miles on residential roads going 30mph or less.

For the week I averaged 4.7 m/kWh
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun May 12, 2013 5:12 pm

dgpcolorado wrote: Some of us like to drive efficiently whether we are using electrons or driving an ICE and trying to keep gasoline costs down. Others here prefer to "drive it like they stole it". I've had occasions when I got annoyed at someone following me too closely and gave the LEAF the full 80 kW just to watch them recede to a speck in my mirror. It may not be efficient but it can be fun.
This Car has 100% torque and thats what put the power, When I test drove I was amazed the power it has, The Sales Guy keep telling me to Floor the Pedal and see the response and I did few times and it was very quick, this seals the Deal for me, Their are always moments on the HWY driving when you like to pass someone quickly, so if you know you have that power you wont hold it back.
but otherwise just Cruise normally at 50-60 on HWY. Streets may be 25-45 Stop & Go..
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