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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:11 pm

CaliLeaf wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:32 pm
At 92%, it was 262 amp-hr. SOC is 150%.

I'm afraid it will be at 40% battery and die on me.
LEAF Spy should autodetect the correct pack. I would suggest accessing settings and manually selecting the correct pack.

FYI; 62 kwh packs are a mere 176 ahr.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:14 pm

johnlocke wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:36 pm
CaliLeaf wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:04 am
https://imgur.com/a/lpfDYWI

This was taken after driving 10 miles from dealership. I will charge Thursday night. What should I capture after that charge?

https://imgur.com/a/9K4CcRl

This is taken later, says I have 35 kw-hr left?
That can't be correct. The first image implies 100+ KWH ( 262ah*393v=102.966 KWH). Drive the car for a couple of days and see how far you can get on a charge. The second image seems more reasonable and does imply a 40KWH battery. I think the BMS is confused. Drive the car for a couple of weeks and see if the BMS spits out more reasonable numbers. In any case, the actual range you get from driving down the battery will tell the truth.
ahr calc should be using nominal voltage of 360. That said; 262 ahr is not right
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:14 pm

MikeD wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:23 am
CaliLeaf: What are all the part nos of parts used for your battery pack replacement? That should be very revealing. For example, a 40kWh pack even requires a different set of covers than the 24kWh pack, I think. They should have provided this information on your invoice.
He had 30 kwh pack previously
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:16 pm

MikeD wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:59 am
Initially I assumed the OP had a 24kWh pack from the post details, but I was probably wrong.
When Calileaf wrote s/he had an SE s/he probably meant not an S but either an SV or SL, both of which had 30kWh battery packs (the S had a 24kWh pack). These battery packs have 8 yr/100,000 mile warranties which would explain why the dealer would replace them (under warranty) at 71,000 miles and might explain why less information about the replacement was given to the owner.
I had a 30 kwh 2016 S... Build date 10/16. They only came in two build dates. 10/16 and 11/16
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:31 pm

I saw the real invoice (they would not give me a copy) and the charge for the battery was $13k. The dealership enjoyed this warranty work.
2016 Leaf. 30 kw battery replaced at 70k at 60% SOH. Currently 40 kW-hr new battery.

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:27 am

CaliLeaf wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:56 pm
I'm pretty convinced it is a 40 kw-hr battery. Drove 132 miles, battery at 20% still. Leafspy is still reading crazy.

Good to see that other people are saying 40s will replace the bad 30s. I gave the wrong leaf model, not sure where SE came from, but I had the 30 kw-hr.

It is pretty amazing to go from 60-70 mile range to ~160.

https://imgur.com/a/UTWSd5W
Thanks CaliLeaf. That answered my earlier question about GOM readout after the 30 wKa to 40 wKa Nissan battery swap. I guess I will need to change LSP setting to the new 40 kWh setting in the software set up. Perhaps Leaf Spy Pro coding just is not set up to for the upgrade changes. Did you number of charges clear and start recounting. If my old range of 60 does go close to 160 and I have 12 SOH bars for a long long timed I really will not need LSP. I mainly used it to count down the GID's because around 5 I knew the turtle was going to pop out his head AGAIN. :)

Did Nissan shop print you out any battery specs and its serial number, etc after the job was finished?

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:39 am

CaliLeaf wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:31 pm
I saw the real invoice (they would not give me a copy) and the charge for the battery was $13k. The dealership enjoyed this warranty work.
My swap should happen soon but the service writer over the phone said the battery from Nissan is $12,500 which I did not believe him until last night reading here. I did not know the 30 kWa batteries were discontinued but now I know what he told me over the phone was for the 40 kWa pack so that all adds up. The selling Nissan dealership sales person said after it lost the 4th bar I would not have trouble getting it replaced because Nissan pays the dealership well.

At this point both dealerships and National Leaf rep have all been nice and helpful.

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:07 am

goldbrick wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:34 pm
The word must be out. I saw a 10 bar 2016 SV for sale locally yesterday but it is already gone. I would not have considered it without the possibility of a 40kWh warranty replacement battery. I may not be the only one thinking along those lines since it was priced at $12.5k which is a pretty typical sales price for that model around here and many are listed for week(s) before selling.
2016 SV or SL popped up in an ad the other day and it was already down to 8 bars but that was in the north east I think so they are out there ripe for a new battery. It looks like the first 2 years of this generation of battery had issues like the 2011 and 2012 generation. I hear a lot of rumors about the health of Nissan but so far with this 6th Nissan (first one without a gas tank) I have no Nissan people complaints all have be super nice and helpful so far.

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:51 pm

It looks like the first 2 years of this generation of battery had issues like the 2011 and 2012 generation.
That would be the entire production run for the 30kwh pack.
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:31 pm

The only issue with the 20-16 and 17 30-kWh batteries was the software bug that was displaying excessive degradation. The update in 2018 fixed that, but I am surprised at how many cars never had the update done.

http://www.cleanfleetreport.com/exclusi ... ttery-fix/
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