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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:40 am


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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:52 am

Im the Phoenix class-action representative from the Nissan Leaf battery degradation class action lawsuit that was filed against Nissan and I still own my 2011 Nissan Leaf w/ 101,800 miles and am down 6 capacity bars on the second battery which was replaced under the capacity warranty. I just spoke to Nissan customer service and they lowered the price of their 24 kilowatt hour battery to approximately $5,495. They're 40 kilowatt battery is now $12,495. They are discontinuing the 30 kilowatt hour battery and replacing those cars batteries with their 40 kilowatt hour battery. They have still yet to announce this which is odd and they will not install a 40 kilowatt hour in a 24 kilowatt hour equipped car. I told them about Fenix Power and that Fenix power will be the best solution because your batteries with a small subscription price every month will be kept at maximum capacity and you'll always be at 12 capacity bars.. Can't Wait! :lol:
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:32 pm

Four copies of the same post is a bit much.
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:56 pm

I'm pretty convinced it is a 40 kw-hr battery. Drove 132 miles, battery at 20% still. Leafspy is still reading crazy.

Good to see that other people are saying 40s will replace the bad 30s. I gave the wrong leaf model, not sure where SE came from, but I had the 30 kw-hr.

It is pretty amazing to go from 60-70 mile range to ~160.

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:30 am

I think Nissan just doesn’t have 30 packs so moved to 40s. It’s cheaper for them and creates a bit of well needed good PR.

My guess the 40 and 62 go to 62 and 8X next year.m, so they want to burn out their 40 packs. You would think the dealers would be begging to be allowed to sell the battery upgrades though.
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:00 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:30 am
I think Nissan just doesn’t have 30 packs so moved to 40s. It’s cheaper for them and creates a bit of well needed good PR.

My guess the 40 and 62 go to 62 and 8X next year.m, so they want to burn out their 40 packs. You would think the dealers would be begging to be allowed to sell the battery upgrades though.
For a reasonable price though. Someone on here said the 40 price was over 12k, and my math put it well over $300 per kWh. That's a bit high is it not? Everything I hear and read says batteries are at or below $150 per kWh and going down.

Thankfully my warranty is good for a long time still! Still, it would be attractive in the future to maybe upgrade to a 62 pack if it was well priced.

Consider my "out the door" price to me on a new 40 leaf was 15540 something after rebates and incentives. So spending nearly 13k on a replacement battery sounds crazy. To me.
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:53 pm

Consider my "out the door" price to me on a new 40 leaf was 15540 something after rebates and incentives. So spending nearly 13k on a replacement battery sounds crazy. To me.

Does it still sound crazy if you think of it as paying near MSRP for the Leaf, and getting either a free 40kwh battery, or a heavily discounted 62kwh battery, when needed?
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:34 pm

The word must be out. I saw a 10 bar 2016 SV for sale locally yesterday but it is already gone. I would not have considered it without the possibility of a 40kWh warranty replacement battery. I may not be the only one thinking along those lines since it was priced at $12.5k which is a pretty typical sales price for that model around here and many are listed for week(s) before selling.

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:52 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:53 pm
Consider my "out the door" price to me on a new 40 leaf was 15540 something after rebates and incentives. So spending nearly 13k on a replacement battery sounds crazy. To me.

Does it still sound crazy if you think of it as paying near MSRP for the Leaf, and getting either a free 40kwh battery, or a heavily discounted 62kwh battery, when needed?
Not sure? I probably wouldn't be looking that far ahead, for better or worse. I would look at the cost of the battery at that moment as being almost twice what it should cost. I mean, if Nissan is gouging for a replacement battery it doesn't really matter how good a deal I got before, they are still gouging,

But more likely, faced with a 13k "fix", I'd take that money and instead get another "new" Leaf or other EV (if I could once again find a year-old model sitting on the dealers lot). Make the best deal I can at that moment in time including rebates and credits.

Your point is well taken though. Hard to predict the future.
Only thing we do know is the 2018 warranty is a lot better anyway than older models, so less likely I'll have to face that scenario. I'm right around 90% SOH at 7 months of ownership.
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:09 pm

CaliLeaf wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:11 pm
Dealer just replaced my battery in 2016 Leaf SE. Range said 168 miles when I got in. Drove 10 miles and now it says 155. Are they putting 40 kw-hr batteries in now as replacements?

Car has 71k miles, battery was down to 61% SOH.
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