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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Wed May 27, 2020 7:48 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 7:04 pm
GaleHawkins wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 12:38 pm
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:53 am


That isn't how degradation works in the 40 kwh pack. Its as far from linear, far from heat sensitive, far from affected by climate, as you can get from a Nissan traction pack. If I had to predict, I say you will be at 94.7% a year from today. What is your prediction?
How did you jinz my new battery? Three days after your post my new battery SOH dropped nearly a much as in the first 102 days.
Every 90 days like clockwork for the first year to 1½ years. After that, its all over the map. Mostly likely when other influences like climate starts showing.
Thanks now I know. It is sad that Nissan started coming apart starting at the top before debugging the kind of important part called the traction battery. I read Renault did use AC based cooling of their EV batteries and hope they get traction before the burn through their $5 billion from the French government. I expect Japan will do something for Nissan.

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Sun May 31, 2020 7:05 pm

Ran across this video showing the battery upgrade process. It looks like places are quickly getting it to a science.

Maybe Nissan should sell the car sans battery and open up a whole market of 3rd party batteries.
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:47 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 7:05 pm
Ran across this video showing the battery upgrade process. It looks like places are quickly getting it to a science.

Maybe Nissan should sell the car sans battery and open up a whole market of 3rd party batteries.
Link to the video? Intrigued.
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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:56 am

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:44 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZzrPmSLCJI

Here is my example. I offer Nissan Leaf battery refresh / upgrade service in Portland OR

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:55 am

evrides wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:44 am
Here is my example. I offer Nissan Leaf battery refresh / upgrade service in Portland OR
Umm, did you deliver it to the customer with that flashing-alternating GOM?

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:55 am

Dala wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:55 am
evrides wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:44 am
Here is my example. I offer Nissan Leaf battery refresh / upgrade service in Portland OR
Umm, did you deliver it to the customer with that flashing-alternating GOM?
no, it was my first experiment. GOM was fixed later

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:55 pm

with 40kwh swaps done by nissan, leafspy by default is fairly buggy. I found that if you change leaf spy settings to model year 2018 and 40kwh, and also backup those settings for ease of use because leafspy will change them again, it seems to correctly display the shunts, SOC, HX, and AH.

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:18 pm

osi wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:55 pm
with 40kwh swaps done by nissan, leafspy by default is fairly buggy. I found that if you change leaf spy settings to model year 2018 and 40kwh, and also backup those settings for ease of use because leafspy will change them again, it seems to correctly display the shunts, SOC, HX, and AH.
Not surprising since I doubt the author expected Nissan to be doing these weird swaps and whatever weird behavior Nissan may have introduced, in the process.

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Re: 40 kw-hr battery in 2016 leaf

Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:12 am

osi wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:55 pm
with 40kwh swaps done by nissan, leafspy by default is fairly buggy. I found that if you change leaf spy settings to model year 2018 and 40kwh, and also backup those settings for ease of use because leafspy will change them again, it seems to correctly display the shunts, SOC, HX, and AH.
Thanks for the great tip that worked well. Have you heard of any 30 to 40 battery swaps by Nissan in the last 4-5 months?

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