gotd77 said:
Are you going to though a party when you return this junk? lol yes, I can see they trying hard to reduce the manufacture cost. what reason they had to create S model (which I am driving) and remove Quick charge option? this short range go kart really needs 440v quick charge. I ended up spend lots of money to install dedicated 240V at home because this go kart barely can do 50miles round trip to work and as soon as I get home start charge it. it shows 18 hrs to charge. next morning I get out home with 80% charted. who can do 18hrs stay home and wait for this junk to be full charge?? if I had quick charge option then I could have stop some where and willing to spend 30 min charge will get me home and continue charge 110V. I told Nissan that quick charge should be a primary source for charge. NOT 110V can be a primary charge...never never!!!
Nissan did NOT "remove Quick charge option". It was NEVER standard on US models. On the '11, you had to go to the SL trim to pay ($700, IIRC) more to get the optional CHAdeMO inlet (there were only SV and SL trims pre-'13). Heck, for the early adopters who got early '11s (shipments began in Dec 2010), there was 0 or virtually 0 CHAdeMO infrastructure in the US and there were threads like http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4042" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
They made the CHAdeMO inlet standard on the '12 SL (http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/19/2012-nissan-leaf-higher-price-tag-standard-equipment/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
. It was unavailable on the '12 SV (you can confirm this via the Specs tab of http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/channels/Leaf-Press-Kits/presskits/US-2012-nissan-leaf-press-kit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
.
Starting with '13, they made it available as part of a package on the new lower cost S trim, and the SV. It's standard on the '13+ SL, like it was standard on the '12 SL. They made it available on ALL 3 trims instead of forcing you to get the highest and THEN pay more for the port.
The S was a lower cost trim level w/the nav system and better stereo removed and w/a slightly cheaper interior. Also, they also left out some stuff that they included standard on '13+ SV+ trims such as the hybrid heater w/heat pump, 6 kW on-board charger, etc. It enabled them to have an even lower sticker and lease price and it's a form of market segmentation, as well as enabling upselling.
As for "quick charge" being "be a primary source for charge", well, some places have no CHAdeMO DC FCs. How could that be a primary? In the SF Bay Area, the DC FC infrastructure is not great. Lots are broken, few are free and none are reasonably priced. $0.59/kWh on crappy and/or poorly maintained (often broken) Blink DC FCs or the other main provider is pricey http://www.nrgevgo.com/san-francisco-bay-area/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. No thanks. I last used my DC FC port in May 2014 (I got my car end of July 2013). I've so far paid $0 for any public charging. 2 DC FCs I used before are now no longer free and on the Blink network. The last one might've changed from free on Chargepoint to being on expensive NRG eVgo. It was also broken numerous times for weeks anyway.
It's certainly not MY primary source.
Sounds like you didn't do your homework. Nissan has tried to discourage people from using 120 volts only as their primary means of charging via lots of verbiage in the manual and elsewhere. FWIW, I have no level 2 EVSE at home. My charging is mainly via free L1 and L2 charging @ work, sometimes free public L2 charging and sometimes L1 (120 volt) charging at home, on weekends and when I'm off.
As for your "50 miles claim" please answer these questions: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=275421#p275421" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; in this thread. I suspect you are actually leaving lots of range on the table, besides possibly driving too fast and/or not properly conserving charge. Forget the crappy GOM.
gotd77 said:
...I set at public charge station with 240V one day at night!! it was cold..no food no fun. for two F hours for gain only 10 some miles....it is useless!!
That's what you get for not getting the 6 kW on-board charger. If you had done that (via either the S w/the "charge package") or gotten an '13+ SV or SL, you'd have it and on most public L2 EVSEs, would've picked up charge at almost 2x the rate.
