GerryAZ
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Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:31 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:05 pm
I am lucky to have a dealer 10 miles from home that really supports LEAFs. I don't anticipate any new EV's for a while unless Nissan decides to sell the van version here or someone else offers a compact cargo van with reasonable range and technical features.
You mean in AZ? The Ariya has a liquid cooled pack, so I would expect t see it sold even there.
No, I meant I don't expect to purchase any new EV's for a while. Yes, I expect the Ariya to be sold here. The Mustang and F150 will eventually be available here along with current vehicles which consist of Audi, BMW, Bolt, Jaguar, Leaf, and Tesla (hope I did not leave any out). Last I checked, Kia and Hyundai will not be available here any time soon.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015; traded 8/10/2019 at 82,436 miles
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LeftieBiker
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Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:01 am

I misread what you wrote. Sorry about that.
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donaldus
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Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:45 am

Endurance

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Location: Bay Area

Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:55 am

After we return our 2017 Leaf at the end of the lease, we were down to 1 car, a 2019 Leaf SV plus. At first, we decided to stay with 1 car. We purchased an electric cargo bike so I can take my 6 year old with me where ever I go. My 6 year old can ride his own bike, but when you are in a hurry to go somewhere, it is much easier if he is on the same bike with you. I live in a town with lots of hills, my commute to work is a category 4 climb if you watch Tour de France. So we bought a Tern GSD cargo bike with a mid-drive motor. We absolutely love it. It is fantastic, you get to be outside, fresh air, close to nature and uses much less energy than our Nissan Leaf. With dual battery, the bike has a range of around 100 miles, longer than a 24 kWh Leaf. When I am on the flat, I try to turn off the electric motor and use my own power. We even rode in the rain and it was not as bad as we thought. I highly recommend checking out an e-bike if you live in a city with safe places to ride them.

Now moving back onto the car. My wife got a job that is quite a ways from our home, so we are putting a lot of miles on our 2019 Leaf, more than the lease allow. We have to buy another car to compensate for the miles. My wife wants a dash board display, so Tesla Models 3 and Y are out of questions. The RAV4 PHEV is a great choice, but they are so expensive right now. Most dealer around here adds additional $10,000 to the sticker price. The LG batteries has been catching on fire, so cars with LG battery are out of question. We look into the VW ID4, but not sure how good are the driver assist functions and they are not available yet. Ideally, we would like to buy the Nissan Ariya, especially with the ProPilot 2. But it won't come out until October of this year (according to a Nissan dealer).

We end up buying a 2021 Pacifica Hybrid Limited. We have little kids and we can use the space. It drives really nice and we don't have to pick our adventure based on the location of a DC fast charger. For about $33K after all of the incentives and rebates, we got a car with 3 row seating, leather seat, 10.1 inch Display with build in navigation, a huge tri-panel panoramic sunroof that basically cover the entire roof of the car (and it has powered sunshade for when the sun is too bright), ventilated/heated front seats, LED headlight, adaptive cruise-control, blind spot and rear cross warning, pedestrian/cyclist emergency braking, rain sensitive wipers, 360 cameras, parallel and perpendicular park assist, wireless phone charging and wireless Apple CarPlay. I know it is not a true EV, but 32 miles electric range is still very useful.

I know our purchase choices may be quite different from everyone, but it works for us. And my current favorite ride is actually the bike, I get spend time with my son, we ride through bike trails with Coastal Redwood trees or ride along the ocean front hoping to see a humpback or grey whale. During this special time, it doesn't get better than this.
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hbquikcomjamesl
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Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:35 am

It probably hasn't been invented yet: I kept my 1978 Datsun 510 for 20 years, and I kept my 1998 Toyota Camry for 20 years, and I expect to keep my 2018 Leaf for at least another 20 years.
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Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:35 pm

For me it's probably the 2013 SV I bought for my dad. I might 'buy the farm' he lives on when he can't live out there anymore and I'm assuming the car will come with it. By then it will probably be ready for 40kWh or 62kWh battery upgrade. The dream is to use the original 24kWh pack for solar backup but that's still pretty iffy.

salyavin
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Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:54 pm

Just be aware that after 20 years of use I would expect range reduction on that LEAF, probably still more range than early LEAFs though.

hbquikcomjamesl
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Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:30 pm

salyavin wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:54 pm
Just be aware that after 20 years of use I would expect range reduction on that LEAF, probably still more range than early LEAFs though.
By then, it will probably be on its second or third battery pack, and might even need a software update to handle capacity undreamt-of at the time of manufacture.

Both my 510 and my Camry had been re-engined by the time they were hauled off to their respective final rusting places.
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Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:19 pm

I had my first car (2000 Camry) for over a decade. It was old enough to vote by the time I finally had to let it go and the only reason I replaced it was due to the fact the backend was badly damaged from an accident the year before and my husband also needed a new car so we negotiated a better deal buying two at the same time. I don't think my 2013 Leaf will last that long due to the 1st gen battery. Unless the total replacement cost for the battery come down significantly it's just not worth it. All these newer EVs have much larger batteries and better range.
That being said I only drive a few miles a day so my Leaf is just fine for my current commute. I did consider looking for my next EV earlier this year when I applied for a job at a different location that would require far more driving. I'm glad I didn't get it for multiple reasons, but the applicable one here is that I'm just not ready to consider a new EV. There are far more choices now and many are on their first gen runs so you just don't know how the vehicles will hold up and what kind of support the dealers are going to provide (assuming you can even get one right now). I'm hoping that by the time I need to replace my Leaf there will be plenty of used EVs for sale at cheaper prices. By then we'll have a better idea what models and batteries hold up. More battery recycling and replacement options should be available in the near future as well considering the growing number of EVs on the road.
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donaldus
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Re: What is going to be your next EV?

Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:44 pm

hbquikcomjamesl wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:35 am
It probably hasn't been invented yet: I kept my 1978 Datsun 510 for 20 years, and I kept my 1998 Toyota Camry for 20 years, and I expect to keep my 2018 Leaf for at least another 20 years.
still have the 74 beetle purchased new!

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