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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:21 am

As @powersurge put it: “ As for me, A $5K replacement would be a good deal because I will be darned if I give Nissan $40K for even a Plus Leaf. That is too much for a specialty car that has a dubious future. After owning a New Leaf for 6 years, I will invest $$ for repairs on my owned car, buy not Give Nissan MORE NEW $$$ on their latest half-baked products.”

I used to agree to both points, maintain an owned car but no new money to Nissan. However over time, I've gotten bitter about Nissan’s handling of early battery capacity losses. I have signed up with Fenix for a replacement but I’m even rethinking that. To not warranty capacity from the get go borders on criminal and forced the 5-year, 4-bar capacity warranty for vehicles in hot climates, and I did not qualify. Today, though, I barely eke out 30-35 miles on a full electron tank in city driving. No ICE vehicle I’ve ever owned or heard of had its gas tank shrink to hold less energy range over time, let alone to less than half its original size. That Nissan didn’t properly back its early batteries is to me both a shame for the EV and for early owner’s pocketbooks. Yes, they’ve improved the batteries and capacity retention, but come on now, $5500 for a new electron tank?

Yeah, no more Nissan logos in my driveway. And when I locate the used Model S I like and is priced for me, my 2012 LEAF SL goes to the charity du jour. So yes, I’m a bit bitter here.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:21 am

Boxman wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:47 pm
zialeaf wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:11 am
My 2011 LEAF with 45K miles and a marginally performing 8 bar battery is at the dealer in Albuquerque getting a new 24 kWhr battery. All in, about $5500 (less sales tax, probably). Looking forward to returning to using this car as much as I did when it was new!

Steve in New Mexico
How did it go, Steve?
Unfortunately it turned into a fiasco. Upon removing the original battery, a pack rat infestation was discovered, complete with a large, live pack rat who had been along for the ride, which then bolted and ran out of the shop.

Wiring damage was discovered. Insurance claim filed. Insurance company formula blows up, they declare the vehicle a "total loss." Insurance company now saying my only options are take their offer, or buy the car from them! Currently arguing with them. Dealer is keen to help (they obviously need the business), and is bending over backwards to with a killer deal for replacing the damaged wiring harness and installing the new battery. I need to resolve the dispute with my insurance company before I can move forward.

So my LEAF is currently in limbo at the dealer, battery is out, and it's going nowhere for now! The new battery is hanging out, waiting to be installed.

Steve

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Re: Nissan Gen 1 replacement down to $5500

Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:31 pm

Boxman wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:46 pm
I saw it mentioned elsewhere that Nissan will now replace your Gen1 Leaf battery for $5500 (not $9000 or $30,000 as some have experienced).

Can anyone confirm this, and if anyone on this forum has done said battery replacement, how did it go?
I got a replacement battery this month for my 2011. Total price including labor and all taxes and fees was under $6,000 ($4,500 for the battery, just under $1,500 for the labor and tax, etc.). Took a few weeks for the battery to arrive, and the people at the dealership (not the technician) were pretty clueless about how the processed worked, but it was done faster than the original estimate (of 6-8 weeks; it took more like 4 weeks for the battery to be delivered) and everything works great. No regrets. New battery has a 100% state of health.

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Re: Nissan Gen 1 replacement down to $5500

Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:29 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:33 pm
I saw it mentioned elsewhere that Nissan will now replace your Gen1 Leaf battery for $5500 (not $9000 or $30,000 as some have experienced).

Can anyone confirm this, and if anyone on this forum has done said battery replacement, how did it go?


There is an existing topic on this, and I'll move your post there soon.
Oops I forgot I’d actually posted on this very thread a month ago! Thanks for moving this.

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Re: Nissan Gen 1 replacement down to $5500

Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:32 pm

theblueleaf wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:31 pm
Boxman wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:46 pm
I saw it mentioned elsewhere that Nissan will now replace your Gen1 Leaf battery for $5500 (not $9000 or $30,000 as some have experienced).

Can anyone confirm this, and if anyone on this forum has done said battery replacement, how did it go?
I got a replacement battery this month for my 2011. Total price including labor and all taxes and fees was under $6,000 ($4,500 for the battery, just under $1,500 for the labor and tax, etc.). Took a few weeks for the battery to arrive, and the people at the dealership (not the technician) were pretty clueless about how the processed worked, but it was done faster than the original estimate (of 6-8 weeks; it took more like 4 weeks for the battery to be delivered) and everything works great. No regrets. New battery has a 100% state of health.
Great to hear; thanks for the feedback!

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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:40 pm

johnlocke wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:27 pm
Boxman wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:04 pm
goldbrick wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:28 pm
My understanding is the it is the 30kWh packs that have been discontinued. 24kWh are still replaced with same but 30kWh warranty replacements are getting 40kWh packs.
Really? The 40kWh pack actually fits?
The 40 KWH bolts directly in, A quick spin through the Diagnostic Computer to match up the SN's and you are good to go. A 62 KWH fits with some modifications to the mounts as well. So much for Nissan telling us it couldn't be done.
So buy a used 2016 or 2017 30kWh Leaf with a bunch of miles on it, then bring to Nissan dealer and they’ll install a new 40kWh battery for $5500?

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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:54 pm

So buy a used 2016 or 2017 30kWh Leaf with a bunch of miles on it, then bring to Nissan dealer and they’ll install a new 40kWh battery for $5500?

Better yet, buy a '16 or '17 30kwh Leaf with three or four capacity bars missing, and when four bars have dropped Nissan will install a new, free, 40kwh pack under the battery capacity warranty. You do have to have a software patch done first, and that may (or may not) extend the bar life for a while.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:00 am

I have a contact on the inside that supplied me with the prices that Nissan pays for these packs in EU
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24kWh - 17666€
30kWh - 22730€
40kWh - 20871€
62kWh - 28897€

Note that it is cheaper for Nissan to use 40kWh packs instead of 30kWh when doing warranty work. Nissan isn't doing any goodwill here, they are simply profiting.

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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:13 am

What are the amounts in dollars or Euros? Or is that Euros shown?
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:20 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:13 am
What are the amounts in dollars or Euros? Or is that Euros shown?
That is Euro with 0%VAT
Quick conversion to USD also without any VAT
24kWh - 19430 $
30kWh - 25000 $
40kWh - 22956 $
62kWh - 31783 $

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