blueleaf Nissan batteries are not cheap. The 30 kWh packs used in 2016 and 2017 have been discontinued so one has to go with the 40 kWh pack that list for $12,495.00 so that is over $312 per kWh but one would have to be over 100K miles to not be covered by Nissan.coleafrado wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:04 amblueleaf,theblueleaf wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:10 pmI drive a 2011 Leaf and my battery is at 8 bars. In the winter, I can barely get 20-25 miles on a charge (with the heater off!). This is extremely welcome news.
I called my local Nissan dealer. They don't have an EV technician, but hope to train someone on it within the next year. I could wait, but I've waited long enough.
I then called my next closest Nissan dealer. They don't service EV vehicles and have no plans to do so.
My next call was to one that is far enough away that it would take 2-3 charges to get there. A long trip, but okay if it's just once. They said that they can quote me $650 for the labor, but they have no idea what the cost of the battery would be and they don't know how to even find out. The man I spoke with told me not to believe what I read on the Internet and that even he, a Nissan employee, wouldn't be able to get a price for a battery out of corporate.
There are now multiple reports of this new price (thanks, OP, for this thread!), so I was confident that this guy was wrong about corporate not giving out prices. Nevertheless, there is no substitute for first-hand experience, so I called and can confirm that they are telling people it is $5,499 minus a $1,000 credit for trading in your original battery, plus labor, taxes, etc. Didn't even have to coax that info out like I expected; they were happy to share it and did so right away. The national hotline rep was extremely nice and knowledgeable. He noted that the first step for getting a new battery is to take your car in for a battery test, which I plan to do asap (hoping the local dealer can do the test even if they can't do EV repairs). It takes a minimum of 4-6 weeks for a new battery to be delivered to a dealer after that.
I know that $5,500 is more than the value of my car at this point, but I am willing to pay it. I'll walk away with a car that I know is in good condition and with a brand new battery. No matter what the blue book value is, I know that's worth the investment. I expect to get 8-10 years out of this battery (it better last at least as long as the previous one considering it will be a lizard battery), and that's a reasonable cost for that length of time. At the $8,500 price it was a no, but this price seems much more reasonable. Not great, but reasonable.
I'd caution against spending $5,500 on a "new" 24 kWh pack (for a cost of $230/kWh, while other manufacturers' packs are being sold today for barely $100/kWh). The newer pack chemistry (post 2012) degrades about half as fast per year as the original chemistry, but it still degrades, and after 7-8 years you're likely to have <60% capacity once more. By that time, batteries are likely have become substantially cheaper and more durable, and more advanced charging technology may be ported to older vehicles. Don't rush into giving Nissan the full price unless you're sure it's worth it.
Yes it would be a gamble for a first Gen Leaf but if one wants an EV with a new battery it might be the way several would go?