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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:20 pm

I'd forgotten about the skipped payments on the lease extensions. I think I got two of those, so the tax I had to pay was likely cancelled out.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:07 pm

Leftie, I am going to hire you for my next EV purchase.

Leaf is still kicking ass in Ireland, though I have to admit the geography and climate is just about perfect for the car.

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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:35 am

Big discounts on Leafs in Germany. Now can be had for 28K Euros.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.comput ... 43891.html
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:42 am

A good U.K. run with the Leaf. Interesting that the 100kW charger only gave 51 peak change. Do the new EVGO chargers here give you the same 75-80KW that EA chargers give?

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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:18 pm

We were parked beside a leaf plus at an EVgo charger somewhere outside San Diego. He was charging in high 60’s kw and it stayed up there for a while. We were in our smart ED charging on L2.

My wife finished detailing her little smart ED for the last time. Her model 3 is arriving in a few weeks so time for it to go. It’s been a great little car but change of life required four doors and longer range.

I’ll continue driving my leaf until I retire.
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:07 am

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-s ... .4195152

The rear view mirror remark got my attention. From Norway one posted that the Leaf while still selling seems to be getting pushed to the back of the pack year by year by new lower end EV's like from Korea.

I do not know about that locally because we are not in an EV state but what I do know locally Nissan looks dated compared to the Korean ICE options today. The Soul is hot in our college town.

Sadly it seems Nissan is selling locally more on price vs coolness.

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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:20 pm

Yep, price is about the only differentiation it has left as it can be had in the US at least for much less than almost any other EV (new) post dealer and govt incentives. Availability also helps a bit over Kia/Hyundai as their cars are not nation wide.

In Europe, the rush for EVs combined with the discounts will give Nissan small window of opportunity (kind of like with the eGolf) to upgrade. But it will be gone by Q3 even with discounts as VW and others get their next gen cars to market.

Japan was fascinating to see the bump there in Feb. Curious to see if it holds.

Nissan am has slight but diminishing first mover edge for Leaf in some markets. MG is quickly catching it though.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:16 pm

Yep, price is about the only differentiation it has left as it can be had in the US at least for much less than almost any other EV (new) post dealer and govt incentives.
It has a comfort advantage - unless you are looking for air-conditioned semi-leather seats. The Korean cars also have numb-feeling steering that makes the Leaf seem sportier when you drive it.
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:53 pm

I have to say, I really like the "factory match" leather seats I had installed. I thought I would miss the suede inserts, but I don't, and possibly think the leather is a bit better quality than what comes on the SL. Are the Kia's fully leather, or Pleather (Leather-ette or Vegan Leather) like Tesla and Toyota?
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:54 pm

I believe the Koren EVs use a mix of leather and plastic cloth in their seats.
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