GaleHawkins
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:32 pm

kmcmahan wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:24 am
This is why I bought a Leaf now. I found a used 2017 Leaf S with a 40 KWH battery pack replaced under warranty by Nissan (replaced the week before I bought it). Finally I have a Leaf that I can Drive into town and back without recharging (50 miles each way). The price of the car was probably less that what I would have had to pay outright for a new 40 KWH battery pack.
Awesome. That is one Leaf sweet spot for sure. After an hour test drive in a Model Y in Nashville a few weeks ago clearly that's now my dream EV.

That being said our 2016 SL with 12K miles on the new 2020 40 kWh battery pack should get us into 2025+ driving a quality low cost EV. By then Tesla should have a one peice casting with FSD which I may require at age 75 when I have to renew my driver's license.

Enjoy your new 40 kWh battery pack range.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:44 am

cwerdna wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:08 pm
Thanks. Found https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releas ... 1-us-sales. Bolt is just creaming Leaf in US sales.

For Q1 2021, it was 2,925 Leaf vs. 9,025 Bolt, which I posted at viewtopic.php?p=601758#p601758.
Its all about price and Bolts are going for less which helps with people who don't qualify for the full tax credit. Its funny because I know someone who got a Bolt for same price that he could have gotten a LEAF for after saying several times he preferred the LEAF more and I "know" he makes enough to qualify for full tax credit but claimed the Bolt was "thousands cheaper" which was not the case but either way, its still good but still shocks me at how uninformed most buyers are?

He also got a zero interest loan from GMC (I think) . He put a good chunk down "probably" just over $5 K based on the ad he showed me a few weeks ago.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:49 am

Yeah, for even money, depending on your needs, I could see getting a Bolt. Supposedly the new seats on the 22 model are much improved. The charging rate, which everyone complains about in youtube blogs, I think is not much of an issue.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:10 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:49 am
Yeah, for even money, depending on your needs, I could see getting a Bolt. Supposedly the new seats on the 22 model are much improved. The charging rate, which everyone complains about in youtube blogs, I think is not much of an issue.
If leasing maybe? but after experiencing 100 kw charging, I have to disagree. Better than 50 kw charging might not be common place in some areas but that is changing rapidly and I still consider it to be one of the biggest fails of the Bolt. Makes me wonder after the fire issues, why Chevy didn't do the obvious speed bump this year? Its all very suspicious.
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:59 pm

I have never used QC for anything but normal charging, and because it was free for two years. I thought about taking a trip North and using DCFC to extend it, but it never happened, and now my health makes it too difficult and even risky. I'm willing to lease a Bolt with no DCFC port for this reason. The car will essentially be a 235 mile range local hauler and second EV. Put me in one for less than $150 month, with little or nothing down, in August, and I'll do it. I may even do it in preference to a Leaf S even though I much prefer driving a Leaf, because as I recall the Bolt's cargo area has better access, and is equally large if the back seats (which I rarely use) are folded. It's also my understanding that they quietly fixed the seat issue in '19 or '20.
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:09 pm

If you dont need the back seats, I would say see if you can land a 22 Bolt (not EUV) for a cheap lease late in the year. Supposedly they are more for fleet vehicles, so consumer demand may be low (with most going for the EUV), and hence deals coming up quickly. With seats down, the Bolt cargo space is very good.
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:55 pm

The only way I'd be able to wait until after Summer is if the Ariya is late coming here, and my lease extension grows to 6 months.
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Triggerhappy007
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:51 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:44 am

Its all about price and Bolts are going for less which helps with people who don't qualify for the full tax credit. Its funny because I know someone who got a Bolt for same price that he could have gotten a LEAF for after saying several times he preferred the LEAF more and I "know" he makes enough to qualify for full tax credit but claimed the Bolt was "thousands cheaper" which was not the case but either way, its still good but still shocks me at how uninformed most buyers are?

He also got a zero interest loan from GMC (I think) . He put a good chunk down "probably" just over $5 K based on the ad he showed me a few weeks ago.
Yeah, he's a really uninformed buyer if he puts a big chunk down on a zero interest loan. I would put nothing down.
LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:59 pm
I'm willing to lease a Bolt with no DCFC port for this reason. The car will essentially be a 235 mile range local hauler and second EV. Put me in one for less than $150 month, with little or nothing down, in August, and I'll do it. I may even do it in preference to a Leaf S even though I much prefer driving a Leaf, because as I recall the Bolt's cargo area has better access, and is equally large if the back seats (which I rarely use) are folded. It's also my understanding that they quietly fixed the seat issue in '19 or '20.
Do you have a Costco membership? If not, I would recommend signing up this month because you can get a $3000 rebate when buying or leasing a Bolt. You have to be a member for at least a month before the new promotion period starts.

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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:03 pm

I may well do that - thanks. I thought the Costco deals were mainly in CA, but if NY is also seeing them it's worth it.
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:08 pm

Triggerhappy007 wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:51 am
Do you have a Costco membership? If not, I would recommend signing up this month because you can get a $3000 rebate when buying or leasing a Bolt. You have to be a member for at least a month before the new promotion period starts.
I've also seen some Costco deals that require 3 months of membership. I think it's a YMMV
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