baumgrenze
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:13 pm

Valdemar wrote:^^^ OT but I think $30 for tire rotation is actually reasonable. .
How does the math on this work out? For well made tires can we optimistically assume 50,000 miles? On a 5,000 mile rotation schedule, that is 10 rotations or $300. Will a new set of tires cost $600, installed and balanced? If so, then 50% of that is around the $300 you spent on tire rotations. Will they really extend the life of your tires by that much? I seriously doubt it.

I'd love to hear from those who have driven far enough to be able to supply real numbers.

My $0.02.

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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:33 pm

baumgrenze wrote:
Valdemar wrote:^^^ OT but I think $30 for tire rotation is actually reasonable. .
How does the math on this work out? For well made tires can we optimistically assume 50,000 miles? On a 5,000 mile rotation schedule, that is 10 rotations or $300. Will a new set of tires cost $600, installed and balanced? If so, then 50% of that is around the $300 you spent on tire rotations. Will they really extend the life of your tires by that much? I seriously doubt it.

I'd love to hear from those who have driven far enough to be able to supply real numbers.

My $0.02.

baumgrenze
A floor jack, a lugnut wrench, and 30 pleasant minutes in my garage. Free lifetime tire rotations. :roll:
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:41 pm

derkraut wrote:A floor jack, a lugnut wrench, and 30 pleasant minutes in my garage. Free lifetime tire rotations. :roll:
Bought this a few months ago, because a standard jack won't fit under the Volt. Got it on sale for like $80. It's pretty awesome!

Done my own rotations for years, mostly because I don't want to pay to have it done, but also so my wheels don't get wrecked and the lug nuts over torqued.

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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:19 pm

consider my case. Got my leaf new in June 2013. Now it has 26,000 miles on it, about 8 percent battery degradation. Got the first year, will get the second year, this puts the estimated miles in June of 2016 at about 55,000 miles. The capacity warranty runs out at 60,000. approx. degradation by then 17 percent. There is no way my battery will need the capacity warranty as far as I can see. It still will be valid until the third battery check is due and if I see a problem I could have it done to keep the warranty up. Do you think the battery warranty itself is worth preserving? I have till 100000 miles, which would mean I will need to do the 3rd, 4th and 5th check to keep it active. What could go wrong with the battery except for capacity degradation, which is not covered after 60,000 miles. Is it worth me wasting the 160 bucks to keep it in force?
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:52 am

johnrhansen wrote:... What could go wrong with the battery except for capacity degradation, which is not covered after 60,000 miles. Is it worth me wasting the 160 bucks to keep it in force?
Individual cells could fail.
My battery is only 43 months old, Ah 53.5, Hx 77%. But the Cell Voltage Loss Inspection shows more than eight cell pairs weak at Very Low Battery Warning.
Still unclear how Nissan is going to handle these but it is possible some repairs or replacements are done on the standard warranty beyond the capacity warranty limits.
I plan to keep having the annual "test" done until all the warranties have expired just in case.
Battery cost is much lower than expected, you might get one for $4,200 at the right dealer.
But that is still a lot more than annual battery "tests".

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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:40 pm

Just had my third battery check done and was charged $27.60, based on 0.3 hours. While they were at it they also did the "P2501 Lower Apron Campaign" which I hadn't had done before.

My car loses the 36 month warranty on Monday but there just weren't any things for me to have them fix. Besides the battery being down more than 14% in capacity, the only major annoyance is the reduced regen after the P3227 software update and it doesn't appear that Nissan will ever fix that bug (I don't believe for a minute that the reduced regen actually protects the battery in any useful way).
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:48 pm

dgpcolorado wrote:Just had my third battery check done and was charged $27.60, based on 0.3 hours. While they were at it they also did the "P2501 Lower Apron Campaign" which I hadn't had done before.

My car loses the 36 month warranty on Monday but there just weren't any things for me to have them fix. Besides the battery being down more than 14% in capacity, the only major annoyance is the reduced regen after the P3227 software update and it doesn't appear that Nissan will ever fix that bug (I don't believe for a minute that the reduced regen actually protects the battery in any useful way).
I agree with you, unlikely that Nissan will fix P3227.
We should all complain on the new LAB topic.
They are meeting with Nissan at some point, soon.

What is P2501?
Is that the fix for snow accumulation that Nissan chose to selectively apply?
If you live in Chattanooga where we only get a blizzard once in 25 to 100 years, they chose not to offer the fix :?:

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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:54 pm

TimLee wrote:What is P2501?
Is that the fix for snow accumulation that Nissan chose to selectively apply?
Yes.
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:28 pm

TimLee wrote:I agree with you, unlikely that Nissan will fix P3227.
We should all complain on the new LAB topic.
They are meeting with Nissan at some point, soon.

What is P2501?
Is that the fix for snow accumulation that Nissan chose to selectively apply?
If you live in Chattanooga where we only get a blizzard once in 25 to 100 years, they chose not to offer the fix :?:
I got offered that fix several years ago but when I asked about it at the dealer they didn't know what I was talking about (back then). Several months ago the dealer sent me a postcard to the effect that it was an unfinished campaign for my car. I guess they are getting better about finding things to repair on the handful of LEAFs serviced at this remote location.

My LEAF sure has been a trouble free car thus far... I plan to keep the LEAF until the Model III comes out, assuming it is really affordable and Supercharger capable. If not, I'll have to decide between a new battery for the LEAF or a new, and presumably much longer range, LEAF.
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:47 pm

I'm bringing my LEAF in the day before its 36 month anniversary so no charge for this 3rd battery check -- although this time no loaner (they switched back to rental cars at $30/min per day); basically they said if it needed additional warranty related work they would still provide a free one but not just for this ... I believe all other TSB's and campaigns have been taken care of (got the 'snow shield' and software that ruins the regen a bit one); someone mentioned a grabby brakes one but don't think that applies to my '12 SL but will check on the forum a bit more. We've only got a little over 26K at almost 3 years so perhaps 8,800 miles/year. Had a 'free' tire rotation that was offered by the dealer awhile ago and the brake fluid is still fine so that's it --- has anyone had to pay for the 3rd check at a Chicago area Nissan dealer yet?

As far as battery degradation --- quite close to losing the first bar (at an 80% charge, the next bar is gone in only 3 or 4 miles of driving; quite a bit longer if I go 100%; go figure?) so I'm sure our 'moderate' climate and low miles helps. All in all, quite inexpensive to maintain; just wish the heater in my '12 didn't take so long to warm up but the heated seats and steering wheel help a lot.
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