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cwerdna said:
EatsShootsandLeafs said:
dmacarthur said:
Electrical infrastructure is possibly more susceptible than gasoline..... we be next!
It's crazy how vulnerable the energy infrastructure really appears to be. imagine if we were engaged in an actual war and it's not just some random hackers testing to see how vulnerable it is (assuming that's what happened over the weekend, but I don't know).
Ummm, don't think they were doing just https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penetration_test. Per many sources like https://www.cnet.com/news/fbi-says-darkside-hacking-group-responsible-for-pipeline-cyberattack/, it was ransomware.

Yep, I didn't know this when I posted :D
 
Nubo said:
Well, the Romans did use to put Lead in their wine, to make it sweeter! :eek:

There's actually no conclusive evidence that they did so deliberately.

Artificial sweeteners have had a tough rap for a long time, though. I'm old enough to remember the cyclamate scare of the late 1960s, and the subsequent U.S. cyclamate ban of 1970, which led to this exchange, from one of the "Lost Episodes" of Get Smart, "Is This Trip Necessary" (Season 5, Episode 12):
Dr. Jarvis Pym: Sodium Calcium Chloride, do you know what that is?
Maxwell Smart: An artificial sweetener?
Pym: No, it's the second most deadly poison in the world.
Smart: What's the first?
Pym: Artificial sweetener.
 
hbquikcomjamesl said:
Nubo said:
Well, the Romans did use to put Lead in their wine, to make it sweeter! :eek:

There's actually no conclusive evidence that they did so deliberately.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325023100_Lead_Poisoning_in_Ancient_Rome

Some people put the must in leaden vessels and by boiling reduce it by a quarter,
others by a third. There is no doubt that anyone who boiled it down to one-half
would be likely to make a better thick form of must and therefore more profitable
for use....But, before the must is poured into the boiling-vessels, it will be well
that those which are made of lead should be coated inside with good oil and be
well-rubbed, and that then the must should be put in....The vessels themselves in
which the thickened and boiled-down must is boiled should be of lead rather than
of brass; for, in the boiling, brazen vessels throw off copper-rust and spoil the
flavour of the preservative....Must of the sweetest possible flavour will be boiled
down to a third of its original volume and when boiled down, as I have said
above, is called defrutum
 
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