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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:56 pm

I stumbled across https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/inter ... not.30469/ the other day. His observation seems correct. (I have no Bolt promo plan. TIL of it and I'm guessing it's long dead.)

As bro1999 wrote:
As most of us know, EVgo charges by the minue rather than per kWh. What I've observed (after looking through previous charging events), is that EVgo seems to ignore the seconds spent charging. For example, during a recent charging session, I charged for 28 minutes, 54 seconds and was billed $2.80 (10 cent/minute Bolt promo plan). EVgo didn't round up and bill me for the additional 54 seconds. I looked through my charging history and saw I consistently billed only for full minutes spent charging. So if possible, stop your charging session just before it rolls over to the next minute to save a few cents. And not right after it rolls over to the next minute. This ain't gonna make you rich, but hey, a penny saved is a penny earned, right?
He's right. I checked a bunch of my charging records. They seem to truncate/drop the seconds.

I did the bolded part for my most recent EVgo DC FC. :)

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:36 am

cwerdna wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:56 pm
I stumbled across https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/inter ... not.30469/ the other day. His observation seems correct. (I have no Bolt promo plan. TIL of it and I'm guessing it's long dead.)

As bro1999 wrote:
As most of us know, EVgo charges by the minue rather than per kWh. What I've observed (after looking through previous charging events), is that EVgo seems to ignore the seconds spent charging. For example, during a recent charging session, I charged for 28 minutes, 54 seconds and was billed $2.80 (10 cent/minute Bolt promo plan). EVgo didn't round up and bill me for the additional 54 seconds. I looked through my charging history and saw I consistently billed only for full minutes spent charging. So if possible, stop your charging session just before it rolls over to the next minute to save a few cents. And not right after it rolls over to the next minute. This ain't gonna make you rich, but hey, a penny saved is a penny earned, right?
He's right. I checked a bunch of my charging records. They seem to truncate/drop the seconds.

I did the bolded part for my most recent EVgo DC FC. :)
ok, thought this was common knowledge. One caveat though; each station has a delay that varies from a few seconds to as many as 10 so you will need to watch that. I generally terminate at :50 seconds and a few times it logged it to 57 or 58. Now this is better than before when there was a lag of up to 10 seconds from what the machine display said but now the app appears to be accurate within a few seconds or less.

On the flipside; EA no longer provides a timer it seems but also seems to bill in whole kwh increments so I will probably be testing them if I use them this summer to see if I can get xx.9 kwh and be billed for xx
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:02 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:36 am
cwerdna wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:56 pm
I stumbled across https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/inter ... not.30469/ the other day. His observation seems correct. (I have no Bolt promo plan. TIL of it and I'm guessing it's long dead.)

As bro1999 wrote:
As most of us know, EVgo charges by the minue rather than per kWh. What I've observed (after looking through previous charging events), is that EVgo seems to ignore the seconds spent charging. For example, during a recent charging session, I charged for 28 minutes, 54 seconds and was billed $2.80 (10 cent/minute Bolt promo plan). EVgo didn't round up and bill me for the additional 54 seconds. I looked through my charging history and saw I consistently billed only for full minutes spent charging. So if possible, stop your charging session just before it rolls over to the next minute to save a few cents. And not right after it rolls over to the next minute. This ain't gonna make you rich, but hey, a penny saved is a penny earned, right?
He's right. I checked a bunch of my charging records. They seem to truncate/drop the seconds.

I did the bolded part for my most recent EVgo DC FC. :)
ok, thought this was common knowledge. One caveat though; each station has a delay that varies from a few seconds to as many as 10 so you will need to watch that. I generally terminate at :50 seconds and a few times it logged it to 57 or 58. Now this is better than before when there was a lag of up to 10 seconds from what the machine display said but now the app appears to be accurate within a few seconds or less.
Obviously not common knowledge for me as I didn't start using EVgo until a bit after COVID-19 lockdowns hit and didn't actually start paying full EVgo prices until DrivetheARC shut down for good recently.

I guess I should've monitored during the few times I was paying a bit and getting 75% discounts from EVgo rates via DTA.

I too was concerned about any lag so I didn't want to cut it that close. My most recent EVgo session was logged as 9:52. :)

BTW, I was surprised that ABB DC FCs like the one I used at https://www.plugshare.com/location/64437 are so quiet. They are much quieter than the BTC Fatboys I've used and some others.

Although not EVgo, https://www.chargepoint.com/products/commercial/cpe250/ are also very quiet.

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:11 am

Received email from EVgo. Looks like they are trying to generate business since COVID Care is no longer...

Charge 10 minutes or more in April (plan or pay as you go) and get a $5 credit to use in May.

If cheaping out, you could do the 10:55 charge for $2.90 ( Pay per use WA rates) and then get another 17 mins of charging in May at no additional cost.

27 mins@ 2.90 is a hair under 11 cents/min which will translate to just over 14 cents/kwh if you do it right ;)
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:36 am

If there was an EVgo within 125 miles of me, I might bite. As it is, I try not to travel in April. Too much work to do to prep the boat for the season.
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:48 am

Weird I got no email from EVGo. I might consider it if I remember, I will drive about 200 miles or so this weekend.

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:00 am

salyavin wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:48 am
Weird I got no email from EVGo. I might consider it if I remember, I will drive about 200 miles or so this weekend.
Interesting.... It "could" be a personal offer although that isn't even implied in the email. I would check the app?
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:16 am

I don't see anything. It could be because you had covid care pricing.

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:38 am

salyavin wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:16 am
I don't see anything. It could be because you had covid care pricing.
no... I checked the website and it says nothing... but it would appear membership is all that is required.

"Dear David,

We’ve got a surprise that’s sure to put a “Spring” in your step! Every EVgo customer who fast charges at an EVgo station this month will receive a $5 credit on their account.

Yep, that’s right – a FREE $5 credit* as an April “thank you” for being a valuable EVgo customer!

Stop by any EVgo fast charger this month, use your Pay As You Go or Member account to initiate a charge of 10 minutes or more, and we’ll issue your EVgo account a $5 credit for you to use on charging in May. It’s that easy!

Just a little “April Shower” of a thank you from EVgo for being part of the shift to EV adoption.

Sincerely,

Your Fast Charging Friends at EVgo

Promotion Disclaimers:
A session will be defined as a EVgo charging session with a minimum of a 10 min session between April 1st - 30th, 2021.
Promotion will only be valid for customers who have opted in to receive EVgo promotional emails and received this email.
Only members who have charged at a EVgo fast charging station will be eligible for this $5 promotion.
Charging sessions and credits will be drawn down at local rates; please visit our EVgo app or charging plans page for more information about specific rates in your area.
Credit will only be allowed to use for future charging only.
Credit will appear on your statement within 30 days of completion of the promotion.
Credit will not be applied to or reduce applicable taxes."

FYI; What I did find out is they extended COVID Care to 6/30... didn't tell me about that either and as of the 5th, it wasn't extended...
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:41 am

Promotion will only be valid for customers who have opted in to receive EVgo promotional emails and received this email.


I may not have opted in to recieve promotional emails (have not checked yet) and did not receive that email. So yea it is not everyone. It may be most perhaps?

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